Just to share my 0.02 South Sudanese Pound without any attempt whatsoever to change anyone's opinion:

On 04.05.26 15:00, Salz, Rich wrote:

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    I had sincerely proposed what I believe is a good middle ground to
    move on. WG is free to trash my proposal.


Okay then.  Your proposal is not a middle ground. It says that hybrids are better.

That's not my read. The PR says '/could/ be preferred', which seems to say to the implementers like: check out that section of that RFC and do a proper analysis of your own system requirements and if that suits you better, implement that instead of this.

Personally, I am also fine with words like '/may/ be preferred' or something like that.

It's non-normative, and a very weak statement -- and IMHO a middle ground.

From the mailing list traffic, several other long-timers agree with that.

Please note that the document being discussed for reference is in the publication queue, reflecting broader IETF consensus -- including the TLS WG.

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In my understanding, there are ca. 10 WG members who have opposed the draft. To help fix that, I encourage supporters to put an alternative middle ground on the table.

Sincerely,

-Usama


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