> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:52:13 +0200
> From: Hannu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: keyed address - patent
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> Jason R. Mastaler wrote:

> >> First, it doesn't matter if TMDA existed before the patent was
> >> issued.  When it comes to patents, it's basically the first one to
> >> file the patent is the one who has the right to claim it. So if
> >> TMDA was first and never filed, then they don't have a leg to stand
> >> on.
> I agree with Jason; you cannot patent a wheel. In fact, you cannot
> patent anything that is public knowledge. TMDA is published, so it's
> idea's cannot be patented, unless the procedure has been started
> before the publisment.
> I quess there are no problem here :-)

I am definitely not an attorney.  I thought in the US one has one year
from when one first publishes the idea to seek any patents.

More specifically in 35 USC 102 lists the conditions or "barring events"
for a patent:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/35/102.html

So if AT&T published a paper a year ago, TMDA used the idea, and then AT&T
just submitted a patent then TMDA would not count as prior art.

> > What about prior art?

Ezmlm was the first place I saw keyed addresses used.  I do not know where
DJB got the idea from, but he is involved in the crypto community.  He may
have invented the idea, I do not know.  Ezmlm calls them "cookie"
addresses.

I know I have an ezmlm key file dated August 1, 1999.  So I have been
using keyed addresses since at least then.  I was using ezmlm before that,
but I have no idea how long before that and I have no idea when ezmlm
started using "cookies".

Benjamin J. Stassart
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