on Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 02:29:54PM -0500, Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> "Benjamin J. Stassart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > RBLs block a whole lot of spam.  My mail server hosting 22 domains for
> > friends and myself blocks between 1000-2000 e-mails a day based on RBL.
> > It then blocks between 500-1000 a day based on invalid DNS.  Envelope
> > checking and blacklists then block around 50 a day.  After all that
> > individual users use TMDA, SpamAssassin, or combined to limit their spam
> > further.
> >
> > TMDA creates confirm messages.  If we can determine that the message is
> > spam, there is no reason to generate an e-mail.  It would significantly
> > increase the amount of e-mail traffic are machine had to deal with if we
> > only used TMDA to deal with all those spams.
> >
> > SpamAssassin is resource intensive.  Eliminating that many e-mails before
> > they have a chance to reach SpamAssassin is a good thing.
> >
> > That is the reason I use a multi-tiered approach.
> 
> I use a similar approach, and I find it equally useful.
> 
> Many people make the argument that challenge-response paradigms generate
> too much traffic, and quite a few of these people use this argument to
> outright reject any and all use of challenge-response.
> 
> Few of these outright detractors seem to want to consider the fact that
> a hybrid approach similar to what we use not only addresses this
> problem, but also effectively prevents that last little bit of spam from
> sneaking through.

Few of those criticising these "outright detractors" appear to
understand that the recipient of a challenge has no a priori basis for
determining what, if any, additional filters stand between your C/R
system and the Net.


I'd recommend taking a look at Brad Templeton's (very recently revised)
Best Practices page:

    http://www.templetons.com/brad/spam/challengeresponse.html

Given his guidelines, I can assure you I will never receive a valid
challenge.


Peace.

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