On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:44:51AM -0400, David Collantes wrote:
>Is there a better way to handle mailing list, other than the one's on the 
>FAQ? Is there a way --out of the box-- not to send challenges to 
>subscription request acknowledgments and or messages coming from mailing 
>lists (automatons)?

I subscribe to mailing lists with keyword addresses.  This drastically
simplifies everything.  Basically, in order to be effectively subscribed
to the list, you need to be able to do three things:

        1) receive administration requests from the list software
        2) receive posts from the list
        3) send posts to the list

Subscribing with a keyword address easily handles #1 & #2.  You no longer
have to worry about what address list information is coming from.  You know
it came from the list, because it's got the correct keyword address.
Using keyword addresses enables me to recieve any and all email from
the list.

But I still have to be able to post to the list (#3 above).  If the list
doesn't put any restrictions on posting, then you don't have to do anything.
You can already post.  No problem.

However, most mailing lists require that you be subscribed in order to post.
If that's the case, you'll need to add something to your outgoing filter to
allow you to post to the list.  Here's the filter that I use for tmda-users:

        to [EMAIL PROTECTED] tag
                envelope keyword=tmdausers
                from bare
                reply-to dated=1w

The mailing list will let me post because it sees the keyword address
in my envelope header, and permits the post.  No one else on the list
sees my keyword address, because the list replaces the envelope header.
Everyone on the list sees only my from and reply-to headers.

Some lists monkey with the reply-to header.  In which case you have to
decide what to do.  The above filter will work, but anyone on the list who
tries to reply to me privately will have to go through confirmation.  For
lists that monkey with the reply-to header, I usually set up an outgoing
filter like this:

        to [EMAIL PROTECTED] tag
                envelope keyword=mungeylist
                from dated=1w

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
- Mark
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