Hi, this is Roger's wife.  I have been seeing a lot of emotional messages along this line--much of it from Mike McGavick who is running for US Senate against Maria Cantwell in Washington state.  I had to write in to clarify some things.  I work for Social Security.  Social Security administers two separate programs--the regular Social Security retirement & disability programs, which are funded by people who pay into the Social Security system & their employers---and Supplemental Security Income (SSI), which is a federal welfare for elderly and disabled who qualify for little or no regular Social Security.  Employers are required to collect Social Security taxes from ALL their employees, whether they are citizens, legal aliens or illegal aliens with fake identification.  ALL employers are also required to pay into the Social Security system for their employees, in addition to what they collect.  Illegal aliens may be earning social security credits, but they can NEVER collect social security checks without definitive proof of lawful permanent residence or citizenship.  So, illegals are having social security taxes withheld from every paycheck, even though they will never qualify to receive anything in return.  As for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), virtually no permanent resident aliens that got their immigration after 8/22/1996 can ever qualify.  Congress made an exception to allow disabled or elderly refugees to qualify for SSI, but only for 5 years after they enter.  Then their benefit checks are cut off abruptly!
 
I also wish to comment on the letterwriter's experiences seeing "illegals" shopping at Macy's etc.  The letterwriter's mother was trained to be frugal, in a style that is typical of Europeans, descendants of Pilgrims & Puritans, and survivors of the Great Depression.  The Mexican government, for one, has discouraged saving money, because of frequent  changes in their money system.  Every time this happened, all the money a person had saved in a bank, became worthless.  I witnessed this when I accompanied a high school group to study in Cuernavaca, Mexico.  The couple that hosted the teacher & myself lived in a middle-income neighborhood, though most of the homes were much grander than theirs.  Raul had a college degree in engineering, but had gone into private business (road construction) shortly after college, some 35 years before.  In his late 40s, he suffered a heart-attack and sold his business, along with all the machinery he had acquired.  He put the money in the bank while he recuperated and decided what to do next in his life.  The peso was devalued by the government, and then when he went back to work, all his money was only enough to buy a beat-up truck and a small carwash business.  So you see, that's why Mexicans spend their money, instead of saving it. 
 
Hope this clarifies some issues that are quite emotional right now, and in my opinion, misleading.
 
Roger's wife
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda
To: TM
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: [TMIC] social security

 
 
I received this and thought they had a very good point.
 
Subject: Social Security
>
>My mom was a homemaker and dad worked all his life and paid into SS, dad
>Has passed away and now my mom can barely make ends meet.  While the
>Possible "illegal" alien in front of her at the grocery store buys the name
>Brands, my mom goes for the generic brands, and day old breads.  She
>Doesn't have out of state calling on her phone, because she can't afford it
>And shops at the thrift shops and dollar stores while the "illegal" aliens
>go to Macy's, Gap, J.C. Penny, Banana Republic, etc.  She considers having
>a
>pizza delivered once a week "eating out". She grew up during the
>Depression, watched her husband go overseas to fight in WW II a year after
>their marriage, and then they went on to raise, feed and clothe 5 children,
>scrounging to pay tuition for parochial schools.  I'm sorry, but I can't
>see
>how the Senate can justify this slap in the face to born and bred! , or na
>turalized citizens.
>
>
>
>
>It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If they give
>benefits to "illegal" aliens who have never contributed, where does that
>leave us that have paid into Social Security all our working lives?
>
>The Senate voted this week to allow "illegal" aliens access to Social
>Security benefits. Attached is an opportunity to sign a petition that
>requires citizenship for eligibility to receive social services. If  you do
>not wish to sign the petition yourself, please forward on to anyone you
>think might be interested.
>
>  


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