Avonex - new to me.    What is it supposed to do?           Janice


From: bobby jim 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:25 PM
To: Janice Nichols ; rj_ran...@yahoo.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Barbara Alma 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


Improvement......... me thinx she's at the stage where improvement would be the 
regeneration of her myelin, a feat not yet at hand.   She's fully mobile, 
sleeps well, works an eight-hour day and loves to cook.  She also likes 
gardening but I take care of the harder chores because after a couple of hours 
out in the garden, specially in the summer, she starts to fade a bit.  

All this, am sure, is because she's been on Avonex since March '99.

BobbyJim        
  From: Janice Nichols    To: bobby jim ; rj_ran...@yahoo.com ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Barbara Alma   Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 18:26
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


  She really had it rough.    Hope, eventually, she will improve.    We hear 
from others that after many years, improvement still happens.    I wish her 
luck.
  Janice

  From: bobby jim 
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:33 PM
  To: jan...@centurytel.net ; rj_ran...@yahoo.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com ; 
Barbara Alma 
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


  Well, me missus went from an initial TM dx to an MS dx after her second 
attack.

  Today, 12 years later, she still has the same lingering effects.  A 'sore' 
back at T-8, chronic fatigue and a dislike for extreme heat and cold.

  BobbyJim          
    From: Barbara Alma        To: jan...@centurytel.net ; rj_ran...@yahoo.com ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com 
    Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 16:50
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


    I still have all the same symptoms, they haven't changed.  Initially as my 
body sort of "woke up" as I say, I went gradually from having no pain or 
feeling to having more and more pain.  I still have decreased sensation in some 
areas and hyper or hypo sensation and pain in others.  I have B/B issues too.  
As time goes on my symptoms still don't really change.  My symptoms are so much 
like so many others here and that's the reason that I stay.  I think this may 
be relative to the fact of it being spinal cord injury, not sure. Maybe injury 
is injury, and the effects of it remains the same depending upon where on the 
cord the injury happens.  But, I may be over simplifying things.  

    I am very pleased to say though, and this is extremely important to me, 
that when I do slack off on my exercises and notice my body getting weaker, it 
does bounce back when I get back into an exercise routine again.  I generally 
stop doing my exercises when I get sick and need all the energy and strength 
just to get around the house and to the bathroom.  And at that point I really 
weaken. I know this happens to many of you.  If I have the flu or any 
infection, it is really hard on my body.   

    Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Janice Nichols <jan...@centurytel.net>
    To: rj_ran...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com; Barbara Alma 
<balmat...@aol.com>
    Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 9:23 am
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


    Looks like Randy and Barbara are living proof that TM, or whatever, is 
still not understood very well.     Seems strange that they follow the symptoms 
for a while and
    then change some, but then isn't that what TM does?     I am certainly not 
the same as I was when TM hit - yet I still follow the symptoms, a couple added 
and a
    couple disappeared.    What a situation it puts us in, but at least we all 
have each other.     Can't tell you what a difference it made to discover this 
website.    Thanks
    guys.
    Janice



    From: Barbara Alma 
    Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:39 PM
    To: rj_ran...@yahoo.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


    Hi Randy and all TMIC,

    I am another one who was originally told that I had TM and am now being 
told that I don't, and that's by the same doctor and another as well.  I've 
never been talked to about MS though.  I had only one attack, was paralyzed 
from waist to toes within 15 minutes, at lesion T8-10.  I even went to 2 
different hospitals, as I wanted a second opinion, both with a TM diagnosis.

    After about 3 yrs I was told by my first Neuro, who became my treating 
Neuro that I didn't have TM.  He didn't know what caused the paralysis and no 
other information as to why.  Not a spinal infarction or stroke, or anything 
else.  I had trouble with my disability claim and he was the cause so I changed 
Neuro's a few of years later and she had MRI's done and told me the same thing. 
 MRI's have come a long way and the lesion is not there any longer and they 
can't see any cause, like a bleed or anything.  She looked for evidence of a 
bleed because she wanted to rule out the possibility of it happening again and 
couldn't find it.

    So guys, since I've had 2 Neuro's both tell me that I don't have TM, I 
really don't care.  I'm sticking with it, and you are just stuck with me.  I'm 
happy here, I get the support that I need, I give it when I can, and I'm not 
going anywhere.  I really don't know what caused my problems, and I really 
don't care at this point.  It is what it is.  I've had this crap for over 10 
years and it's not going away.  I had TM symptoms and that's where I started, 
so I'm sticking with it.  

    Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



    -----Original Message-----
    From: rj_ran...@yahoo.com
    To: Grace M. <grace...@gmail.com>
    Cc: Janice Nichols <jan...@centurytel.net>; tmic-list@eskimo.com
    Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 1:18 pm
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates


Janice its ok. I've actually been wondering if I should stay.  I feel very 
awkward these days. I've been told more than once that I had all the "textbook" 
signs for ms and I did loose my left foot followed by my right leg then my 
bladder was told I had tm and went through the most unbelievable facial pain. 
Had several doc all with different ideas and one that got me on my feet and 
another that got me in pt and walking again I've been hospitalized 4 times and 
now suddenly I am told that I don't have ms and show no signs of tm. I pray to 
God nothing comes back. I spent an entire summer pushing myself on a tread mill 
trying to rebuild my strenght but that was after the years of trying to cross 
my 
legs and do odd excercises on the bed floor and chair that the pt taught me. It 
sure has been a mentally brain warping experience. Tx grace for calling me fam. 
This is a great group of people and have helped me get through a lot of 
challenges as well as put up with my venting from time to time. I think we all 
have to vent. 
------Original Message------
From: Grace M.
To: rj_ran...@yahoo.com
Cc: Janice Nichols
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] TM and Pilates
Sent: Feb 13, 2010 2:26 PM

Randy, 
  
You're like family here at the site and have a lot of good input to offer.  I 
think that you and I came around the same time.  
  
Janice, we don't have to currently be ill in order to participate here.  ALL 
are 
welcome.  It's not an exclusive club.  
  
Respectfully, 
Grace 

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