Db2:
...and the ignorance this list is capable of showing i so confusing anymore..
...Yeah,you idiots that tell me 'Oh ,Dave you are hard to understand.. OH Dave.. you are some mentally crippled person we don't know how to relate to so it's easier to pretend you don't exsist....Sorry Dave..Nin ja Turtles are more important that people..


           ~Like I said earlier in a private email -- I'm so sorry you are having to go through this. I know you have lost a lot of important people in your life. And I know that in the face of life- and- death Real Stuff, a lot of what we all jabber about on the lists sounds trivial, inconsequential and superficial. And I understand how that can make someone angry if they're in the midst of a crisis. Sort of like, "Can anyone even freakin' HEAR ME???!!!"

    And the truth is, probably not everyone can....

     I tend to think that most of what we talk about on the lists is just *fun*; funny, entertaining, and light. We also talk about some real stuff-- values and principles, as it relates to pop culture, or characters, or our own lives, and we talk about self-expression and creativity-- our own and the creative "pros" out there.  We also talk about nitty gritty real life stuff, too. The truth is, these lists run the gamut, just like real life. Some people feel more comfortable with one area than the others, and that's ok.

    Dave, I know you've said before that some people probably delete your mssgs, ignore you, tell you that you scare them or they don't understand you, and I know that's true. Not everyone can follow you, or would even want to if they could, to some of the places you go. But that's ok. It's ok for people to choose to stay in their comfort zone-- even *wise* - to do so.

   I'm guessing that there are a lot of people who wish they did know what to say to *anyone* who is in pain, in a dark place, or scared. Sometimes we just don't know. Hell, I'm not even sure if *I'm* saying the "right" thing most of the time, but I'm willing to risk sounding like an ass because for me, a little well -intentioned braying is better than stoney silence.

   So here it is-- we're all miles apart , a group of odd friends brought together through an odd affection for some odd fictional characters. We have a lot more in common I think, than even we realize. And even if we don't all *understand*, if we hang together, for ourselves, for each other, for this business of being human that we *all* share, we can get through this dark night, any dark night, and the morning will come.

                   ~GreenWillow

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"We ourselves shall be loved for a while and forgotten. But the love will
have been enough; all those impulses of love return to the love that made
them. Even memory is not necessary for love. There is a land of the living and a land of the dead, and the bridge is love. The only survival, the only meaning."
~Thornton Wilder
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