On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:12:07PM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 01:04:55PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote:
> > Nicholas Marriott wrote:
> > > And it is surprising the amount of variation: I have seen others who use
> > > `, or function keys, quite a few seem to go for C-x or C-s, and some
> > > even for C-z.
> > 
> > Using C-s sounds like asking for trouble. :)
> > 
> > > So (and I know you didn't suggest this but some people might be
> > > wondering :-), the tmux prefix key is C-b and it is staying C-b unless
> > > there is a clear consensus that it should change, and what it should
> > > change to.
> > 
> > I doubt there ever will be. C-a makes a poor universal choice (despite
> > screen's precedence, and my personal preference) for the start-of-line
> > thing; ` may make a poor choice for people who write much Perl or shell,
> > or use it with the Compose key to type grave accents (?) or whatnot. It
> > seems to me that there are no good choices, only choices that vary in
> > how poor they are (C-m or C-i are obviously poor choices, and
> > function-keys and C-s can lead to problems that C-a and C-b won't). So
> > might as well keep on doing what we've been doing: choose an arbitrary
> > prefix, but refer to it generically as <prefix> wherever possible, and
> > let people change it to suit their needs.
> > 
> > > The same applies to default colours... many people want colours by
> > > default and many do not, no consensus means it stays what I originally
> > > chose, which is a coloured tmux by default. And the same for the status
> > > line, there is no clear opinion on whether on or off is better by
> > > default, so on it stays on :-).
> > 
> > Yeah. Personally, I always liked having such a visual reminder that I'm
> > "in screen/tmux"; in screen, one of the first things I tended to do in
> > screen was to turn the status bar on, even if I didn't intend to use the
> > information it provided. Though altering one's prompt based on STY or
> > TMUX is another solution, and one that needn't take space (but I tend to
> > have several windows open, so I do usually need the window-list anyway).
> 
> Yeah, me to, although I change my prompt very slightly as well (yellow $
> instead of white).
> 
> > 
> > > For the record, I use C-a for my primary tmux sessions but I leave it at
> > > C-b for transient ones (eg when I start one up on a different box just
> > > for a build).
> > 
> > Do you use Home and End when you're using Emacs, then?
> 
> No, I always just hit C-a twice inside and outside tmux.

I use emacs for at least 8 hours every day so one of the things that
helps to make tmux very productive for me is that copy mode behaves a
lot like emacs (at least for basic functions), so it is very fast and
natural for me to use it... this is why I make such a fuss about being
changing the emacs keys :-).

> 
> > > The actual reason I originally chose C-b was because the first prototype
> > > versions of tmux were written and tested inside screen, and C-b didn't
> > > interfere with screen's C-a prefix.
> > > 
> > > As an aside, you can bind multiple prefix keys, so if you wanted you
> > > could bind a function key and another key as a backup.
> > 
> > Good point. I don't believe screen allows this.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Micah J. Cowan
> > http://micah.cowan.name/
> 
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