On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote:

> > However it's not the only way to do things - and I prefer to not
> > depend on the wrapper that starts tomcat to do it ( there are
> > many other  good ways to start tomcat without requiring the daemon )
> 
> If it's "good ways to start tomcat" as a daemon, then I disagree (except if
> it's when embedded through JNI in Apache). At best, it will work as good as
> with the daemon code, so why bother ?

Because there is not 'a single ( or only ) good way to start tomcat'. 

If doing a JNI call works and is a good solution, why reinventing the
wheel ? The daemon requires using an init()-like method and a certain
architecture - which the other solution doesn't. Even for tomcat4.0,
it would make my life more difficult if jk needs to do something as 
root ( given that I'm trying to make jk a self-contained trusted
application that doesn't require changes in server.xml ).

In general, I don't like the 'starter' to impose constraints or 
dictate the design of the application, especially when the same 
feature can be implemented without this constraint and in a 
simpler manner. I don't like the container to impose too
many constraints on the application either.


It's the old "push versus pull" - or IOC versus 'straight' 
programming. I have nothing against IOC as long as it 
doesn't try to force to be the 'only' way.


> Ok, I'll send then an email.
> And would participate in the project ?


Yes, I think the 'wrapper' is very good and promissing. I already sent 
them an email, but if you want to take care of this - it's great.


Costin


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