Personally, I've rather enjoyed following MinTC's progress (OK, not really following, since I haven't actually looked at the code :). I could see how someone might think it rude to post the announcement on tomcat-user (since many people there are easily confused :), but IMHO MinTC is something that we should see more of on tomcat-dev, not less.
MinTC is certainly not a competitor with Tomcat 4.x. According to Costin, Tomcat 3.3 almost runs under J2ME (I haven't tried it), but MinTC is a different servlet spec than 3.3, so again, not a competitor. I can't see any good reason to block MinTC announcements given that they certainly aren't abusing bandwidth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher K. St. John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: MinTC, "terrible rudeness", persistence > > I've been informed by private email that I am "terribly > rude" for making announcements of MinTC releases on the > tomcat-dev list, and that I should not make any futher > announcements. > > So that's it then? I've been kicked off tomcat-dev (how > does that work on an open source project!?) because I've > offended someone by writing code they don't like!?!? > > This is a bit of a problem for me, as MinTC is, technically, > a version of Catalina, and should be a perfectly appropriate > topic for tomcat-dev. Especially when it's one message every > few weeks. > > MinTC is certainly not a mainline version of Tomcat 4, but > it shares a significant amount of (unforked) code, and that > makes it important to seek a close relationship with the > people maintaining the codebase. It's a bit like sharing a > telephone booth with an 800 lb gorilla: it's a bit much to > hope to have any influence over what phone calls are made, > but at least you can hope to make your presence know so that > you don't get sat on. > > It's a dilemma: there's no point in having an antagonistic > relationship with the core Tomcat developers, that's worse > than nothing. But good grief! This is an opensource project! > MinTC is a version of Catalina, where the heck else am I > going to discuss it? I'm contributing bug fixes and code back > to the core implementation, I'm helping to clean up the core > interfaces, I'm using the Catalina code, I'm doing documentation > work, but I'm not welcome? That seems so strange, and so sad. > > I'd like to get some feedback from someone other than the > person who wrote me privately. Craig? Could you give me an > opinion please? You seem to have the moral leadership role > here. Anybody else, please chime in. I'm horrified that I might > have been being unknowingly rude, but I'm at a loss to explain > how exactly I've caused such awful offense. I honestly don't > get it. > > Thanks, and please, as you think about your response, keep in > mind that the Catalina proposal docs specifically talk about > people doing exactly what MinTC does under the Catalina umbrella. > > Thanks, and sorry for any inadvertant rudeness, > > -cks > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
