FWIW, we have recently contributed some OpenVMS-specific changes to Ant, which they accepted. We did not contribute to Ant-contrib.
I've signed CLAs for NetBeans, there isn't an issue on this end with that. I assume the ASF CLA isn't all that different from the others. Also, I use cvs from my windows desktop machine to access the cvs server where the netbeans cvs library resides. Or, if you really mean we need a Unix machine, we have lots of those here at HP ;-) But, in any case, if the only consensus we can reach at this point is that a tomcat-contrib project would be the best place to host these sorts of files, then yes, let's do it :-) I personally would prefer that the tomcat-contrib project only contain contributions like mine and Leslie's because I think the NetBeans folks would be comfortable taking things like launchers, rather than experimental stuff, but I realize I don't really get a say in this. Meg -----Original Message----- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Costin Manolache Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: contrib directory Garrison, Meg wrote: > Hi Leslie, > > I'm also willing to maintain the HP OpenVMS scripts. Rather than > create a whole new project (tomcat-contrib) maybe it would be possible > for the Tomcat folks to grant us commit access to a single > module/folder in their CVS library (a contrib folder of some sort). > Then they wouldn't have to worry about committing our changes, etc.. > If we misbehave and don't follow their rules, then they have the option to "boot us out". > That's how the NetBeans project does it. For example, I have commit > powers in the core module, which is where the OpenVMS launcher lives, > but no other. Our needs for NetBeans (as yours, I'm sure) require > that the default Tomcat distribution contain our launcher > somewhere...it doesn't have to be in /bin. It would be a good idea, but I don't think it is possible at the moment. Commit access requires a unix account on a machine, at least for cvs. Even if this could be solved - there are non-technical problems, ASF requires a CLA, and a certain review and oversight process. Ant has an ant-contrib project on sourceforge ( including few ant committers ). Maybe we should have a tomcat-contrib as well. This would be a good idea even for committers - there is experimental stuff and code that is not necesarily "servlet container" but is tomcat related ( like non-http servers, etc ). Costin > > Any other ideas? > > Meg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Kishalmi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:29 PM > To: Shapira, Yoav > Cc: Tomcat Developers List; Garrison, Meg > Subject: Re: contrib directory > > Dear all, > > I'm willing to spend some of my limited free time to collect, > organize and maintain these contributed code. > However, it is very unlikely that I would be ever a committer on this > project with my OS/2 launchers. > So, as Yoav said, we could find an other committer. Or we could create > an other project something like tomcat-contrib where we maintain our > code. > > Best regards, > Leslie Kishalmi > > Shapira, Yoav wrote: > > >>Hi, >>Yeah, it's gone for now. The reason is that the maintenance aspect is >>too hard for the long term. While I don't doubt the quality of you >>(or > > >>anyone else's) work, nothing is perfect. It is inevitable that the >>scripts will need work. Even if you stay on top of it and keep >>submitting patches, someone will have to keep checking for them and >>applying them. >> >>I'm not interested in doing that work, and other committers apparently >>aren't interested enough to even comment on what an appropriate place >>in CVS might be for these contributions. So I took them out for now. >> >>That's not to say they're gone forever. I can see a couple of >>possible > > >>solutions, and that's why I'm doing this thread on tomcat-dev as >>opposed to just replying to you personally. >> >>One approach is what I'm doing now: contributed stuff is owned by >>authors (like you) who post it wherever they want (hp.com, personal >>web > > >>sites, whatever), and we link to it from our FAQ and/or wiki pages. >>This approach solves the long-term maintenance concerns. >> >>If this was a one-time effort, I would have done it and we'd be all >>set > > >>by now. But it's not, and I just don't have the bandwidth to work it >>;( Another approach is for someone else with commit privileges to say >>they're interested and do what they think is appropriate. That can >>happen at any time, I wouldn't stand in their way obviously, as I'm >>not > > >>principally objecting to these contributions. I just don't have the >>bandwidth to deal with them at this point. >> >>So this issue is not dead. It's just not going to be in 5.0.30/5.5.4. >>We might also want to raise it on tomcat-user to see if people have >>other creative approaches to solving this. >> >> >> >> >>>Are you really going to take the contrib directory out? I was just >>>about to make a contribution to you via PayPal as a thank you... >>> >>> >> >>Thank you ;) >> >>Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com >> >> >> >>This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business > > communication, and may contain information that is confidential, > proprietary and/or privileged. 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