Well I must have missed something because it isn't working correctly.
;)  Were you using connection pooling in your test?  Perhaps I have
something messed up in a config file?  Or installed jTDS incorrectly?

Thanks for all your help.
Charles 

-----Original Message-----
From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:17 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: JTDS help

Hi Charles,

I've just taken your code and run it through our Tomcat 5.5, jTDS, SQL
Server 2000 web application and it took approx. 0.5s to compile and
subsequent requests were instantaneous < 0.5s. 

I would look again at the issues I first noted, perhaps there is
something you have missed.

Cheers, Allistair.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 February 2005 22:42
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: JTDS help
> 
> 
> When I strip the code to simply this,
> 
> <%@ page language="java" import="java.sql.*"%> <% Connection conn =
> DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://*.*.*.*:143
> 3/dbname;u
> ser=*****;password=******");
> conn.close();
> %>
> 
> It still runs slowly.  And yes it is multiple refreshes.  
> 
> I have tried to use connection pooling but have not been able to get 
> it working yet.  Also the thing that I run into with connection 
> pooling the inability to use the SQL Statement of "select @@IDENTITY 
> from table".
> With connection pooling, you run the risk of getting the ID for a 
> record that someone else inserted with the same connection.
> 
> If connection pooling is the only option, I can work around that 
> issue.
> But it seems that if PHP, ASP, ASP.NET... Can access the database just

> fine without connection pooling, JSP should be able to as well.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> Thanks for all your input.
> Charles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Winterer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:43 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: JTDS help
> 
> I do not think, jsp compilation is the problem - well, the first 
> request will last long, but after the jsp is compiled, subsequent 
> calls will not be remarkable slower than executing pure compiled 
> servlet code.
> (Charles, I hope you did not measure the time for the first request 
> only
> - which indeed includes compilation time, but for subsequent calls 
> too).
> So to me opening the connection is the major problem. Because the code

> itself contains html-output, I think using jsp is quite ok.
> The code would be much cleaner, if Charles used the JSTL tag-library:
> 
> <%@ page language="java"%>
> <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> <%@ 
> taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> <sql:query 
> sql="SELECT * FROM accounts" var="accounts"
> dataSource="jndi/myDataSource"/>
> <table>
> <c:forEach var="acc" items="${accounts}"> <tr> <td><c:out 
> value="${acc.ID}"/></td> <td><c:out value="${acc.Name}"/></td> </tr> 
> </c:forEach> </table>
> 
> Best regards,
> Tex
> 
> David Smith wrote:
> 
> > Ok. You're doing this in a jsp. That means Tomcat is:
> >
> > 1) Compiling your jsp to a servlet class.
> > 2) Building a connection from scratch as opposed to picking up a 
> > pooled connection
> > 3) Running the query.
> >
> > Of these, the first one is the most expensive operation followed by 
> > two. If you want fast, try doing this with a pooled connection and 
> > from compiled servlet code.
> >
> > --David
> >
> > Charles P. Killmer wrote:
> >
> >> Network results
> >> Ping statistics for *.*.*.*:
> >> Packets: Sent = 140, Received = 140, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> Approximate
> >> round trip times in milli-seconds:
> >> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms Query Analyzer
> returns 85
> 
> >> rows in 0 seconds. I modified it to only return Name and ID and it 
> >> still runs slow. So it cant be row size, network latency, hardware 
> >> should be ruled out by the fact that it runs super fast
> through query
> 
> >> analyzer, and PHP and ASP.NET. Its only when I write the
> code in JSP
> >> for Tomcat that it slows down.
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
> >> Monday, February 07, 2005 11:37 AM
> >> To: Tomcat Users List
> >> Subject: RE: JTDS help
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> There's no real reason relating to Tomcat or jTDS that
> this would run
> 
> >> slow. You are more likely to find answers with your
> hardware, network
> 
> >> latency, database load or row size and other environmental factors.
> >>
> >> Allistair.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: 07 February 2005 17:34
> >>> To: Tomcat Users List
> >>> Subject: JTDS help
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to get Tomcat talking to my database quickly. 
> This code
> >>> takes about 2-3 seconds to load. Anyone got any idea's why? Or if 
> >>> you run this in your environment, how well does it run?
> >>>
> >>> <%@ page language="java" import="java.sql.*"%> <%
> Connection conn =
> >>> DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://*.*.*.*:143
> >>> 3/dbname;u
> >>> ser=******;password=*******");
> >>>
> >>> Statement stmt = conn.createStatement(ResultSet.TYPE_FORWARD_ONLY,
> >>> ResultSet.CONCUR_READ_ONLY);
> >>> ResultSet rs;
> >>>
> >>> rs = stmt.executeQuery("SELECT * FROM accounts");
> >>>
> >>> out.println("<table>");
> >>> String name;
> >>> String ID;
> >>> while (rs.next()) {
> >>> name = rs.getString("Name");
> >>> ID = rs.getString("ID");
> >>> out.println("<tr><td>" + ID + "</td><td>"+name+"</td></tr>" ); }
> >>>
> >>> out.println( "</table>" );
> >>>
> >>> conn.close();
> >>> %>
> >>>
> >>> This is just a JSP script, nothing is compiled. I know it
> is better
> >>> to compile, but I am trying to chase down this DB slowness first.
> >>>
> >>> Charles Killmer
> >>> Netgain Technology
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