Fedor Sergeev wrote:
> This is indeed a compiler stuff, but not completely in Sun Studio land.
> Considerable chunk of work is in Solaris, and whats more important ABI 
> additions
> are ARC charter and not controlled by Sun Studio at all. 

I think that's a bit backwards.

It is the experts in a given area who must propose the required changes.
 The ARC then reviews those changes.  In all cases, and at all times,
it's the project teams who are in control of their own work; the ARC
just reviews and approves.  Most importantly, the ARC members should not
be expected to jump up and complete that ABI/standards effort, and
waiting for them to do so will not work.  (Someone may volunteer, but
it's certainly not part of their charter.)

The experts in this case are the compiler and library folks who maintain
the relevant bits.  They're the ones who must drive, so the request does
seem on-target here.

> To be honest, I myself did not yet read this TR, and that in particular is 
> due to the
> fact that we did not have any requests to support it till this very moment.
> 
> Eventually we will, but we need to prioritize.
> And getting external interest for the feature helps putting proper priorities.

No doubt.  And to amplify the point: none of the organizations here are
operating as charities, so if there are paying customers asking through
the appropriate channels (their local sales and support folks) to have
work prioritized, that goes *much* further to getting work funded.

Apart from that, there is another path.  Anyone who wants to can put
together the proposed new ABI, modify some open source compiler to
comply, and run the architectural bits through the ARC.  If the Sun
Studio team can contribute, that's great, but if that team's priorities
are elsewhere, I see nothing at all wrong with having the community
members with an interest in this driving the effort rather than just
"asking" for the work to be done.

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James Carlson         42.703N 71.076W         <carlsonj at workingcode.com>

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