-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 19.01.2014 03:21, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > These are two very different problems. > > AFAICS the wiki can be moved rather easily; your mail trig- gered > me to finally create the bug from my notes written long ago :-) > (cf. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60220). The Toolserver admins > need to decouple the wiki from the Toolserver SSO and dump users > and data, the WMF admins need to set up a (= just another) wiki > without CentralAuth (wmgUseCentralAuth = false IIRC), load users > and data, reset the/mail out new users' passwords and then > wiki.toolserver.org needs to be set as a CNAME for text-lb.
That is good to hear! :) Thanks for your effort regarding this. > JIRA however is much more complicated. You know from your own > experience (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-748 has now been > unresolved for over three years) that few of the Toolserver admins > have time and knowledge with regard to JIRA, while in the WMF camp > they have probably zero. So compared with MediaWiki where > (security) updates will be regularly deployed with the rest of the > cluster, someone would have to keep a dedicated eye on a totally > foreign sys- tem. And we only have a free licence from Atlassian > which could at some point be discontinued. On the other hand the > benefits are very small as Merlijn wrote the fantastic JIRA/ > Bugzilla importer which handles almost all cases. Yes I know those issues... ;) It is/was a pitty... As far as I know, the JIRA/Bugzilla importer has issues as well, please confer https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55673. It does e.g. NOT preserve relations between tickets and thus drops a serious amount of the history too. As I understand from the buzilla ticket this will not be resolved. In my oppinion 1 of the 2 problems should be tackeled; * either keep a static copy of JIRA (may be just the DB along with a simple viewer written by us) * or improve JIRA/Bugzilla importer to a point where it can migrate relations between tickets and other stuff as well Thanks for all your comments! Greetings DrTrigon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLbycEACgkQAXWvBxzBrDCfyQCgqgGvbnLfXIoXVAnceR4a3wJV vaIAnR2e36LLRDKxNvDIqdO+eC1O5Z8v =BjDh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
