The major issue with dielectrics is dissipation factor at 2 MHz, which affects losses and Q. Dissipation factor is not published all the time. I can't find dissipation factor for mineral oil.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wichers" <[email protected]>
To: "Tom W8JI" <[email protected]>
Cc: "HAROLD SMITH JR" <[email protected]>; "Shoppa, Tim" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Submerging variable caps in oil as substituteforvacuum variables


I was reading this thread and all the concerns about oil in the capacitor. Has anyone ever thought about trying SF6 as a dielectric? It's commonly used in high voltage (hundreds of kilovolts) switchgear by utilities.

Just a thought, more curiosity than anything else.

-Bill

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On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:32 AM, "Tom W8JI" <[email protected]> wrote:

Still I am intrigued by the thought of a remote tuning capacitor via hydraulic tubing :-). The capacitor plates could be as simple as two concentric cylinder conductors with appropriate spacers. I betcha crud collecting on the top of the oil would set voltage limit.>>>

I would be as concerned, or more concerned, with the dissipation factor of the oil at short wave frequencies.

The thing that worries me is I cannot recall every seeing a single good high-Q oil-dielectric capacitor above power line and audio frequencies. As a matter of fact, many years ago I tried to use a surplus 20-40kV oil capacitor from Fair Radio as a plate blocking capacitor, and it overheated so badly it exploded.

I looked for HF data on mineral oil as a dielectric and couldn't find anything. That would be my main concern. I guess I could stick mineral oil between the plates of a capacitor and see what happens to Q.


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