Ah yes, this is a typo in the comment. Indeed, spin:query should be  
used. Thanks for reporting it!

Note that for backward compatibility, the values of sparql:query are  
still entered and stored as strings, but technically it has been made  
a sub-property of spin:query. Also for backward compatibility,  
SPARQLMotion still accepts string representations of SPARQL queries.

Holger


On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Schmitz, Jeffrey A wrote:

>
> I'm trying to update to the new versions of the TBC sparql.owl  
> ontology
> and noticed this comment attached to the sparql:query property:
>
> Deprecated: please use sp:query instead.
>
> However, I don't see a sp:query property in the sp.owl ontology.   
> Should
> this comment reference the spin:query property instead?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holger Knublauch [mailto:hol...@topquadrant.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:56 PM
> To: topbraid-composer-users@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: ANN: TopBraid Composer 3.0.0 beta 1
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> this may happen at some point in time, but we don't plan to give this
> part of our core technology away for free in the near future. You can
> use our SPIN API from Composer plug-ins, SPARQLMotion modules or via  
> the
> TopBraid Live server framework. In general, TopQuadrant is eager to  
> help
> with a wide adoption of SPIN, but as you will understand we are also a
> commercial enterprise. Whether the execution engine for functions and
> templates is critical for the adoption of SPIN remains to be seen. In
> any case, re-implementing support for SPIN functions in ARQ is  
> certainly
> doable :)
>
> Holger
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Schmitz, Jeffrey A wrote:
>
>>
>> On second thought, as I get more into the SPIN Modeling Vocabulary
>> document, I'm thinking an API that can handle proper execution of
>> predefined spin:Function's and spin:Template's referenced by  
>> indivdual
>
>> SPIN queries would be very nice to have.  This functionality gets  
>> into
>
>> a lot more than just throwing a string at ARQ and getting the  
>> results.
>
>> Do you forsee publishing those kinds of APIs at a future date?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Schmitz, Jeffrey A
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:48 PM
>> To: topbraid-composer-users@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: ANN: TopBraid Composer 3.0.0 beta 1
>>
>>
>> Yes, I think that should cover our case for the near future at least.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Holger Knublauch [mailto:hol...@topquadrant.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:57 AM
>> To: topbraid-composer-users@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: ANN: TopBraid Composer 3.0.0 beta 1
>>
>>
>> I forgot there is meanwhile a work-around, at least for one  
>> direction:
>> in the SPIN preferences of TBC, activate "Also generate sp:text
>> representation of queries". Then, whenever you edit a SPIN query, the
>> system will also create the textual form and attach it to the
>> sp:Select/sp:Construct subject using sp:text. Then these strings will
>> be stored in parsable form together with your model.
>>
>> Does this cover your main use case, or will you soon need the other
>> direction as well?
>>
>> Holger
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 6:33 AM, Schmitz, Jeffrey A wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Any chance you could provide the SPINRDF to/from String util as a
>>> "stand-alone" API (for running outside of TBC)?  Or better yet, have
>>> it added to the Jena ARQ libs in some way?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Holger Knublauch [mailto:hol...@topquadrant.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:58 AM
>>> To: topbraid-composer-users@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: ANN: TopBraid Composer 3.0.0 beta 1
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Christoph,
>>>
>>> yes we will publish more background material on SPIN in the next few
>>> weeks or months. A good place to monitor is the Composing the
>>> Semantic
>>
>>> Web blog [1] in which I will post use cases and other background on
>>> SPIN in the next few days.
>>>
>>> However, I believe SPIN is very easy to learn if you have some
>>> familiarity with
>>> - SPARQL and
>>> - Object-oriented modeling/programming
>>>
>>> A good place to start is to install the TBC beta1 and use the
>>> workspace that is included in it (or re-run the Import RDF/OWL
>>> library
>>
>>> from the web wizard. This includes an example file KennedysSPIN  
>>> which
>
>>> illustrates all major features of SPIN as a kind of Hello World
>>> example. The help pages of TBC also contain some background, as do
>>> [2]
>>
>>> and [3].
>>>
>>> And yes, TopBraid includes an API for SPIN. In the beginning this
>>> will
>>
>>> assume that you implement your use cases as TopBraid plugins. There
>>> is
>>
>>> also a free web service that anyone can use to convert between  
>>> SPARQL
>
>>> and SPIN syntax [4]
>>>
>>> I hope this helps for now - more will follow.
>>> Holger
>>>
>>> [1] http://composing-the-semantic-web.blogspot.com/
>>> [2] http://spinrdf.org
>>> [3] http://www.topquadrant.com/topbraid/composer/spin.html
>>> [4] http://sparqlpedia.org/spinrdfconverter.html
>>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:22 AM, Christoph wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the announcement. I am looking forward for the
>>>> final
>>
>>>> release :) Do you plan to publish a tutorial for using SPIN and is
>>>> there an API to access it from an application?
>>>>
>>>> Thnaks a lot, Christoph
>>>>
>>>> On 31 Dez. 2008, 23:01, TQ <rhodg...@topquadrant.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Holger Knublauch
>>>>> <hol...@topquadrant.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear users,
>>>>>
>>>>>> We are pleased to announce the first public beta release of
>>>>>> TopBraid
>>>
>>>>>> Composer 3.0, Standard and Maestro Editions.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is available for download from
>>>>>> http://www.topquadrant.com/topbraid/composer/tbc-3.0.0.html
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the first public release of TopBraid since version 2.6.2
>>>>>> in
>>
>>>>>> August 2008. Since last release we have made substantial
>>>>>> improvements to the products and also made significant changes to
>>>>>> our development processes, enabling TopQuadrant to better respond
>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>>>> the needs of our rapidly growing customer base. We have increased
>>>>>> the size of the product team (among others, the Jena architect
>>>>>> Jeremy Carroll has joined us from HP Labs) and we have better
>>>>>> aligned the different facets of the TopBraid Suite product  
>>>>>> family.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Our new release strategy is to have fewer releases than before,
>>>>>> but
>>
>>>>>> to subject each release to a more rigorous test process. For 3.0
>>>>>> this process includes two rounds of beta releases. We expect the
>>>>>> second beta to come out in January and the official 3.0 release  
>>>>>> in
>
>>>>>> February.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Major new capabilities in TopBraid Composer 3.0 include:
>>>>>> - Support for the SPARQL Inferencing Notation (SPIN) [1]
>>>>>> - Incremental SPARQL-based inferencing using SPIN
>>>>>> - Constraint checking at edit time using SPIN
>>>>>> - Support for named graphs in AllegroGraph and Sesame 2
>>>>>> - Forms now contain incoming reference (inverse) widgets
>>>>>> - Significant improvements to SPARQLMotion/Web services
>>>>>> - Support for sharing SPARQL queries on SPARQLpedia [2]
>>>>>> - Numerous bug fixes and performance improvements
>>>>>
>>>>>> Beside Composer the TopBraid Live and TopBraid Ensemble products
>>>>>> have undergone a major redesign. These changes will be rolled out
>>>>>> incrementally over the beta phase. Beta 1 includes significant
>>>>>> improvements to the TopBraid Live's web services support via
>>>>>> SPARQLMotion. Starting with Beta 2 a personal test version of the
>>>>>> TopBraid Ensemble will be bundled with the TopBraid Composer
>>>>>> Maestro
>>>
>>>>>> Edition. TopBraid Ensemble 3.0 has evolved from a specific
>>>>>> application to an application assembly toolkit. Users can select,
>>>>>> configure and wire components to quickly assemble a variety of
>>>>>> dynamic model-based Rich Internet Applications.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please read further details and the installation instructions on
>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>>> download site.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards and best wishes for 2009 Holger & the TopBraid Suite
>>>>>> development team
>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]http://www.topquadrant.com/topbraid/composer/spin.html
>>>>>> [2]http://sparqlpedia.org- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Zitierten Text anzeigen -
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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