Thanks Scott, I am not trying to add one model to another. I am trying to convert massive spreadsheets to OWL in an interesting way.. The TBC import function does not allow one to define classes as equivalent to restrictions on properties etc.
BTW: this method, the one I have been using, has worked. Refactoring does not work..for what I am doing. I have a mechanical means of generating RDF/XML from excel. This results in a text file that I was pasting with felicity into TBC...now suddenly I cannot. That is strange. The info goes in, but gets mangled in the process.. I could use turtle.. maybe that would work, but I was happy with how things were working. The Sparql motion method takes many more steps... can you add this functionality or maybe get it to work all of the time, since it does work some of the time? As far as can tell I am not trying to replace "Thing" with the new list of definitons...there are hundreds of them BTW. There is no code displayed in the source code field of "Thing" and even so, "thing" does not disappear. Like I said this has worked in the past. I would rather uninstall all of TBC including the workbench etc and reinstall it. I tried the new folder route once already. I am using the latest version of TBC for Win7 64. I checked for updates yesterday and found none. But all of my instances of TBC start getting ganky when I build a decent model. For example, it stops responding when I right click on tabs in the form view... it hangs up, then the tab opens so quickly I cannot see it, when I right click again I get the same issue. Is there a limit to how much one can express in TBC before it stops being able to handle it? This happens mostly when I get over 500 classes with restrictions on properties and dijoint axioms...and it happens on win7 both versions. Anyway, thanks for the help. I guess I will try to forget about those sweet days when I could paste 400 classes with restrictions and all directly into TBC and do it the hard way. If there is a mechanism by which I can completely uninstall TBC, I would like to know of it. Best, Leonard On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Scott Henninger <[email protected] > wrote: > Leonard, first, to answer the question on whether this use case is a > supported, the answer is "no". TopBraid Suite, including TopBraid > Composer has a number of mechanisms for importing and including > existing RDF/RDFS/OWL constructs. In particular, if your scenario is > to move a definition from one model to another, I'd direct your > attention to Help > How to? > Refactor ontologies. > > Holger also mentions using SPARQLMotion to import files and snippets > into your model. The is a very flexible > power tool that will support moving data from one model to another. > > If you wish to work with "source code", i.e. a text serialization > format, I'd suggest using the Turtle syntax, which is more human- > readable and editable, and has better performance characteristics when > loading the text serialization. You can open a file in its text > serialization by right-clicking on a file in the Navigator viewer and > choosing Open With… > Text Editor. > > Insofar as editing the Source Code sub-tab is concerned, it appears > you are attempting to replace the definition of owl:Thing with a class > definition. This would give the behavior you describe. Note that the > interface will only show the definitions the interface is able to > process correctly. If you need to see all of your data, either use > the Triples View (Window > Show View > Triples) or view the triples in > the SPARQL View (to get all triples, apply this query: SELECT * WHERE > {?s ?p ?o}). > > For re-installing TBC, just unzip the download into a different > directory on your machine and run the executable from that directory > (i.e. there is no need to delete old versions). In terms of system > stability, make sure you don't edit any files in the TopBraid folder > in the workspace. If you let us know what the startup errors are, > we'd be happy to look into it (also let us know what version of TBC is > used and the OS it is installed on). > > -- Scott > > On Mar 28, 2:21 pm, Leonard Jacuzzo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Holger, > > I have two questions. First, I would like to completely uninstall and > > reinstall TBC on my machine. What is the best means of doing this. > Everytime > > I try it, there is some piece left over. For example, I still have the > same > > workbench etc. I would like to completely reinstall TBC because it has > been > > ganky for a while and now show errors on start up. > > > > The second question is the same as last night. I tried to paste on the > > machine at work and had the same problems as at home. Here is my detailed > > explanation. > > > > I start off with a file that contains the class for which I would like to > > make a subclass. The code for that class is > > > > <owl:Class rdf:ID="Blood_Sugar_InSpec"> > > > > <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="#Blood_Sugar_Reading"/> > > > > </owl:Class> > > > > Then I create a long text file with hundreds strings that resemble this: > > > > <owl:Class rdf:ID="Blood_Sugar_ExHigh" > " > > <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="#Blood_Sugar_InSpec"/> > > <rdfs:subClassOf> > > <owl:Class> > > <owl:intersectionOf rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > <owl:Restriction> > > <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#Has_SL"/> > > <owl:someValuesFrom> > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > <owl:onDatatype rdf:resource=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"/> > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > <rdf:Description> > > <xsd:minInclusive rdf:datatype=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > >0.0898</xsd:minInclusive> > > </rdf:Description> > > </owl:withRestrictions> > > </rdfs:Datatype> > > </owl:someValuesFrom> > > </owl:Restriction> > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > <owl:onDatatype rdf:resource=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"/> > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > <rdf:Description> > > <xsd:maxExclusive rdf:datatype=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > >0.097</xsd:maxExclusive> > > </rdf:Description> > > </owl:withRestrictions> > > </rdfs:Datatype> > > </owl:intersectionOf> > > </owl:Class> > > </rdfs:subClassOf> > > </owl:Class> > > > > When I paste this string into the source code view for "thing" I end up > with > > this: > > > > <owl:Class rdf:ID="Blood_Sugar_ExHigh"> > > > > <rdfs:subClassOf> > > > > <owl:Class> > > > > <owl:intersectionOf rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > <owl:Restriction> > > > > <owl:someValuesFrom> > > > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > <rdf:Description> > > > > <xsd:minInclusive rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > > > >0.2014</xsd:minInclusive> > > > > </rdf:Description> > > > > </owl:withRestrictions> > > > > <owl:onDatatype rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"/> > > > > </rdfs:Datatype> > > > > </owl:someValuesFrom> > > > > <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#Has_CT"/> > > > > </owl:Restriction> > > > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > <rdf:Description> > > > > <xsd:maxExclusive rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > > > >0.211</xsd:maxExclusive> > > > > As you can see, the class that I inserted is no longer declared to be a > > subclass of the class which I encoded as subclass. It gets stuck as a > > subclass of "thing" > > > > If I save this file in TBC, it erases all of the previous classes and > will > > only save the new "non-subclass" info. > > > > I just tried to accomplish the paste at work and it no longer works. > Which > > is strange because it worked on Friday. > > > > Here is a question. Is the method that I am attempting supposed to work > as I > > intend it to work? Can one paste source code for an ontology into the > source > > code field for "THING"? It was working like a charm and now does not. > > However, it is a super convenient means of adding a ton of stuff to an > > ontology. I would love to continue as I was. > > > > I hope that I have given you enough information. (I have to make up stuff > to > > show you as I can't show you the real deal) > > > > Best, > > > > Leonard > > > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Holger Knublauch < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Leonard Jacuzzo wrote: > > > > I will attempt to supply more information on the pasting problem as I > > > find this most convenient. > > > > > > What sorts of information would you like? > > > > > A minimal, reproducible test scenario would be needed, e.g. start with > file > > > A that has a couple of classes, then try to add file B and show me > where > > > data gets lost. If you could attach those two minimal files then I may > be > > > able to help you better. > > > > > Thanks, > > > Holger > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Group "TopBraid Suite Users", the topics of which include TopBraid > > > Composer, > > > TopBraid Live, TopBraid Ensemble, SPARQLMotion and SPIN. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/topbraid-users?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Group "TopBraid Suite Users", the topics of which include TopBraid > Composer, > TopBraid Live, TopBraid Ensemble, SPARQLMotion and SPIN. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/topbraid-users?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group "TopBraid Suite Users", the topics of which include TopBraid Composer, TopBraid Live, TopBraid Ensemble, SPARQLMotion and SPIN. 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