Hmm… Probably autocomplete index update is not being triggered in this sequence.
> On Apr 20, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Tim Smith <smith.ts...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Irene, > > Thank you for clarifying that the sub-properties are driving the different > results. That makes perfect sense. > > I've done a lot of testing and what I have found is that if I add the > property first using the RDF/OWL Properties List panel and then create the > property shape, everything works as expected. > > However, if, as I did in my original example, I create the property shape > first and then add the rdf:type triple to the property by manually editing > the source code for the "placeholder property" entered when I created the > property shape, that property will not appear in the edg:mapsToProperty > selection dropdown in the Data Asset collection. I tested this several times > with different test properties and it seems to be consistent. > > My learning: Create the property first :) > > Thanks for all your help, > > Tim > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 5:42 PM Irene Polikoff <ir...@topquadrant.com > <mailto:ir...@topquadrant.com>> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Autocomplete dropdowns in EDG operate on the autocomplete indices. They are > created automatically on first lookup, updated continuously, and reset on > certain major operations. UI would not be responsive if it had to run SPARQL > queries when a user enters a few letters in the look ups. > > Server Administration console has pages for index management. Various indices > in TopBraid EDG are built over the underlying graphs and they will take into > account graph closure (imports or includes). > > With respect to differences you are seeing: > > 1. Seeing more than what is returned by the query. > > When you look at the screenshot in your e-mail, you see types of the > available properties. These are not just resources with the direct rdf:type > df:Property triples. These are also members of subclasses of rdf:Property > class. > > Your query, however, is: > > SELECT * > WHERE { > ?s a rdf:Property . > } > > May be try: > > SELECT * > WHERE { > ?s rdf:type/rdfs:subClassOf+ rdf:Property . > } > > 2. Not seeing your property in the dropdown > > I can’t reproduce this. I created a property and it is showing up - in the > screenshot below it is one that is coming from the DA CUST collection > > <PastedGraphic-20.png> > > If you can send me a small example that reproduces the problem, I can look > into it. > > > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Tim Smith <smith.ts...@gmail.com >> <mailto:smith.ts...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Irene, >> >> I, indeed, did exactly as you described. I noted at the time that the >> behavior was different than TBC in that EDG was prompting me for the ID/Path >> of Property and then let me add it even though I had not explicitly created >> it. My assumption was that EDG had created it behind the scenes. >> >> So I've added the rdf:Type rdf:Property triple as you indicated. When I am >> in the ontology and I use the SPARQL window to run the query: >> >> SELECT * >> WHERE { >> ?s a rdf:Property . >> } >> >> The description property is returned as expected. When I run the same query >> in the Data Asset graph, I get four description properties one of which is >> the one from my ontology. However, when I try to find the property in the >> edg:mapsToProperty drop down by typing "desc" as a search term, all of the >> results are shown in the screenshot below but none of them are the one I >> created. Also note that there are more results returned in the drop down >> than in the SPARQL window (with query sub-graphs selected). Does SPARQL and >> the drop down look in different places? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim >> >> <image.png> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:16 PM Irene Polikoff <ir...@topquadrant.com >> <mailto:ir...@topquadrant.com>> wrote: >> This is what I suspect is happening: >> >> You are creating classes >> You are then adding property shapes using either the + sign on the class >> form or “add new” in the property group panel >> When a property shape is created, this does not really adds a type for a >> property >> >> Basically, you get something like: >> >> ex:Product >> a owl:Class ; >> a sh:NodeShape ; >> rdfs:label "Product" ; >> rdfs:subClassOf owl:Thing ; >> sh:property ex:Product-description ; >> . >> ex:Product-description >> a sh:PropertyShape ; >> sh:path ex:description ; >> sh:name "description" ; >> sh:or dash:HTMLOrStringOrLangString ; >> . >> >> There is no {ex:description a rdf:Property} or similar triple. And in most >> cases this is just fine and preferred. >> >> The strategy for not inserting this triple is that in most cases it is not >> necessary in EDG and it takes ongoing maintenance (e.g., deletion of shapes) >> simpler. Just having datatype or class constraint is enough. >> >> However, for your use case, you need it the type for the property to appear >> in the autocomplete of the edg:mapToProperty field. >> >> You could do one of these things: >> >> 1. Go to the shape you already created >> >> <PastedGraphic-12.png> >> >> >> click on the value of the path >> >> >> <PastedGraphic-13.png> >> >> and use Source code panel to add the type statement >> >> <PastedGraphic-14.png> >> >> >> >> 2. If you do not have a shape already created, bring in RDF/OWL List Panel >> Use New to create a property >> >> <PastedGraphic-11.png> >> >> For example >> >> <PastedGraphic-15.png> >> >> Then create a property shape. If you type exactly the same name, the right >> property will be used for the shape. >> >> <PastedGraphic-16.png> >> >> >> Alternatively, you could use the button the right of the ID/Path field to >> select the property you already created. >> >> <PastedGraphic-17.png> >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Tim Smith <smith.ts...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:smith.ts...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I created a small ontology in an Ontology Asset collection consisting of a >>> couple of classes and properties. Then I created a small Data Asset >>> collection consisting of a couple of tables and columns. Then I >>> included/imported the ontology collection into the data asset collection. >>> >>> For the database column instances, I want to use the edg:mapsToProperty >>> property to associate the columns with properties defined in the Ontology >>> Asset. However, properties from that asset collection are not appearing in >>> the selection window for edg:mapsToProperty widget even when entering the >>> name of the property. Other properties with similar names do appear from >>> other graphs. >>> >>> From reading the documentation, I thought including the Ontology asset >>> collection would be sufficient to allow references to members of the >>> ontology to be created in the Data Asset collection. 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