So my question to the community is as follows: does the Tor community want 
these small, cheap relays scattered in large quantity around the world, or not?

I realize there could be pros and contras. Among the contras there could be 
(for example) many small relays overloading the dirauths. I would like to hear 
more about the contras.

Among the pros there could be increased security and anonymity, as it would 
take adversaries a bigger effort to infiltrate the network by establishing 
rogue relays. Also could be invaluable as bridges to help people under 
repressive regimes overcome censorship. Tor is gradually getting killed there.

My general impression is that the current DirAuth and bwauths policies are 
stuck at some old paradigm where small bandwidth relays are dismissed without 
good reason, and tons of bandwidth gains and especially diversity and anonymity 
benefits are foregone

Additional info about my experiment: I have just fired up an additional relay 
on Pi Zero. That's a fucking $9 Tor relay, including flash card and case.  
Looks like an oversized USB stick and plugs directly into a USB port of a 
computer. No need even for power supply. CPU utilization - negligible, total 
memory utilization (including Tor) 20%. No need to waste $35 on a Pi 3 which is 
grossly underutilized by the DirAuths.


-----Original Message-----
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of 
Rana
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:58 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

@Patrice:

Yes both relays started with brand new identities and the one that is now 
clinically dead (nickname ZG0) has been wiped out and restarted with a new 
fingerprint AND a new IP address as I have a dynamic one and I rebooted my 
router to get a new one).

 Did not help, so obviously this has everything to do with the network and how 
dirauths/bwauths test the connection and vote, and absolutely nothing to do 
with the identity of the relay

See my previous messages to confirm that this has absolutely nothing to do with 
the capabilities of the Pi, which are a gross overkill for the use of 
(nickname) GG2 that the dirauths and bwauths allow. 


-----Original Message-----
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of 
Patrice
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:57 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: [tor-relays] @Rana - with reference to: Unwarranted discrimination of 
relays with dynamic

Hi,

I`ve read your post and questions, also about your 2 Raspberry PIs with the 
same setting but different locations.
I thought about it and my question is:
Did these to PIs got a new fresh identity on day zero?
If not, it`s worth a try, probably. Kill the old identities and let them by.

My fundamental idea is (and that`s why I am writing this): Does my behaviour 
with the relay (restarting, upgrading, not be onlinening) effect the 
measurement and therefore the throughput of my relay?


Cheers,
Patrice
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