On 8/8/2011 8:16 AM, Jimmy Richardson wrote:
On 8/8/2011 5:03 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 10:41:50AM +0800, Jimmy Richardson wrote:
Google AppEngine provides a platform which can be used to run your own
proxy servers for free, Gtalk supports XMPP which can also be used to
circumvent censorship.
Google actively cooperates with US authorities regardless of user's
geography, so using Google's infrastructure for anonymity is an
oxymoron.
I agree, but again, we were talking about anti-censorship, not
anonymity. Frankly people in China or Iran has much more to fear from
their own government than from US authorities.
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Jimmy, though you have some valid points, I think you missed my point
entirely (possibly some other posters').
1. I wasn't speaking about the US, or any particular country. I was
really thinking of more repressed countries. And yes, in some of those,
people would / might go to jail (or worse) if they were caught accessing
or disseminating "subversive" info.
2. If in a repressed country, one wants to access information / sites
that is forbidden by the gov't, one better have ANONYMITY when accessing
these. There may be ways to get around sites (for instance) being
blocked. If so, one better have anonymity when doing so, or they may
find themselves at the local police station. IOW, if one is
circumventing a gov'ts' censorship, they better have anonymity. In
those instances, censorship & anonymity are linked. Often in the really
repressed, dictatorship countries, people suspected of subversive
behavior just "disappear." It happens all the time.
Pure anti-censorship (or lifting censorship) assumes that bans on
information will be lifted. That still doesn't mean a gov't isn't
watching / logging who's accessing what info, to be used later.
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