mick: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:35:56 +0000 > Johnny Carson <bm-2cwsmyxz1wdrbxaril1tfwmsm4mbcaq...@bitmessage.ch> > allegedly wrote: >> >> I was thinking about this to get around IP blocks on Tor exit nodes: >> >> My computer (SSL) > Thunderbird + Torbridy > Tor (not using hidden >> service to bitmessage.ch) > Internet > VPN > Internet > Bitmessage.ch >>> Internet > Recipient >> >> Not sure if that's possible or easy with VPN and Bitmessage Mail >> Gateway?? >> > > Huh? I don't follow that at all. > > I can see you connecting to bitmessage.ch over Tor, but, how on earth do > you expect to get the bitmessage server to route a message to an > external recipient's MTA over the net, through a VPN back to > bitmessage.ch then back out over the net to a clearnet MTA? > > Whatever. The problem remains that if the clearnet MTA subscribes to an > RBL system (or has other blacklisting in place) it may simply refuse to > talk to a server identified as a Tor node, (or indeed to a system > identified as "mail.bitmessage.ch"). And there is nothing you can do > about that in advance. > > SMTP was never designed with privacy or anonymity in mind. It is > iredeemably broken for that purpose. So any and all attempts at making > a hybrid system which /may/ work within an anonymising network such as > Tor, will almost certainly face problems when attempting to connect to > clearnet systems. The gateways between the two systems have to be > indentified. If they are identified, they can be blocked. > > There are good reasons why the default torrc exit policy blocks port > 25. > > Best > > Mick
Hey Mick, Maybe I am not explaining myself well or maybe Im ignorant and dont see what you see (the latter is most likely ). All I was thinking about was placing a VPN between Tor and Bitmessage, so the Tor exit node isn't seen by the recipient. I could be wrong but i thought VPN could be used with POP/SMTP, so I thought maybe such as VPN could be placed between Tor and Bitmessage, relying of Bitmessag's SSL to protect content from the VPN after it leaves Tor network. I could be totally wrong because im about as far from an expert as one can be and still use this list.. The "> Internet >" parts were just to show the traffic leaves one network, travels in the Internet to the second server (VPN) and then travels in the Internet to Bitmessage.ch. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk