Seth and et al,

Thank you very much for the answers. It basically confirmed what I
thought. Was also experimenting with a self-signed cert anyway as people
connecting would already have a direct association.

My thoughts after answers, while not knowing how everything works behind
scenes, are the browser fights to establish https, then .onion (or vice
verse) and slow or intermittent Internet connections presents problems
with socks?

Also, while it was said that .onion encryption was of lower standard,
wouldn't a high degree of privacy and randomness still be assured,
except for maybe alphabet agencies and more nefarious types out there
specifically targeting a subject or .onion addresses in general, and
some serious work and resources would have to go into pinpointing and
breaking said encryption?

Mark
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