I'm a little curious why some people don't take G Suite into consideration :)
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:26 AM ithor <it...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> ok, so for once i'll keep my fingers crossed for Microsoft...
>
> How should I imagine the connection until the Azure server. What does it tell 
> the DPI ? Just that I'm connecting to a close-to-my-country-based Microsoft 
> CDN ?
>
> On wikipage it's stated that
>
> The technique works by using different domain names at different layers of 
> communication. The domain name of an innocuous site is used to initialize the 
> connection. This domain name is exposed to the censor in clear-text as part 
> of the DNS request and the TLS Server Name Indication.
>
> So a meek request is sent in clear-text. What exact information is given ? 
> The exact ip address of the Azure server, its geolocation ? Could the DPI 
> find out that this is being used for bootstrapping Tor ?
>
>
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> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:06 PM, Jonathan Marquardt 
> <m...@parckwart.de> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 08:38:52AM +0000, ithor wrote:
> >
> > > ever since TBB 8, there's the new moat way to obtain private obfs4 bridges
> > > through a CAPTCHA. In the following webpage it's stated meek is used in
> > > order to communicate with the Tor bridges database. Now, my question is :
> > > which ones ? In my country, domain fronting for Amazon and Google are
> > > unavailable, so the only meek_bridge still working is the meek_azure one,
> > > which isn't going to last.
> >
> > It's not just your country. The meek bridge instances in the Google and 
> > Amazon
> > CDNs were shut down by the the corresponding companies. They did so 
> > supposedly
> > because it voilated their terms of use. They probably don't want to ruin 
> > their
> > relationships with totalitarian regimes. Unless all of the sudden Microsoft
> > decides that they want these good relationships as well and shut meek-azure
> > down, I see no reason to believe that it's not going to last. Meek should be
> > relatively hard to censor using a firewall.
> >
> > > So what will happen when it will shut down ? What alternative solutions 
> > > TBB
> > > will come up with?
> >
> > There's still the good oldbridges.torproject.org website as an alternative 
> > as
> > well as GetTor: https://gettor.torproject.org/
> >
> > > Second question : how is the information concerning the private obfs4 
> > > bridge
> > > protected during the inquiry ?
> >
> > Meek works by tunneling your data via TLS encryption from the CDN, in this
> > case Microsoft Azure. No adversary tapping your internet connection should 
> > be
> > able to retrieve the data.
> >
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