Hello,

Yes, hiro was speaking as a community council member. The email was
verbatim to the email sent to me personally.

Thanks,

Conrad

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 1:09 PM Pili Guerra <p...@torproject.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 29 Apr 2019, at 19:50, Conrad Rockenhaus <con...@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:01 AM silvia [hiro] <h...@torproject.org> wrote:
> >> Conrad,
> >>
> >> You have been kindly asked to stop advertising or repeat commercial offers 
> >> about
> >> your services.
> >>
> >> Avoid cross posting and stick to the general list guidelines.
> >>
> >> We maintain these list for technical support and general discussion among
> >> Tor users and relay operators.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> hiro
> >
> > How was my response advertising or a repeat commercial offer? How is
> > my service even a commercial offer when it's a 501(c)(3) non-profit
> > and I'm not making a profit? How come you don't seem to get so
> > offended when Emerald Onions (for example, I have absolutely nothing
> > against them at all) supports an update about their services?
> >
> > Why am I questioned for responding to an email bashing me for
> > attempting to contribute to the Tor project in a large way by helping
> > others run their own relays by asking that person how they're
> > contributing to Tor project themself? I would think that would fall
> > under the lines of "general discussion." I don't see where I'm
> > advertising for Greypony when all I'm doing is refuting this person's
> > demonstrably false statements such as "the project only runs middle
> > relays on small virtual machines" or "500 KB/s" bridges" which does
> > fall under the guidelines of general discussion and free speech. After
> > all, the only counteract to false speech is free speech.
> >
> > I do wonder why the Tor Community Council wants to have such a
> > Chilling Effect on any speech related to GreyPony while allowing all
> > others to speak freely. It's kind of odd especially since it was
> > previously posted on this list that people could post even about
> > COMMERCIAL providers that are Tor friendly once and awhile but we're
> > OK a little hypocritical behavior if we don't like someone, amirite?
> >
> > --
> > Conrad Rockenhaus
> > https://www.rockenhaus.com
> > Cell: (254) 292-3350
> > Fax: (254) 875-0459
>
> Hi,
>
> I don’t believe hiro was speaking as a community council member but as a tor 
> project person.
>
> We want to nurture an open and welcoming environment were people can come to 
> read and learn about Tor. However, more and more tor-talk feels like 
> somewhere core tor people don’t particularly want to be and so we are trying 
> to change that. I’m sorry that in this case you feel you have been singled 
> out.
>
> We want people to feel welcome when contributing to these lists and we would 
> ask everyone to be mindful of the effect their posts have on the list as a 
> whole to avoid creating a hostile environment.
>
> Thanks for understanding!
>
> Pili
>
> —
> Project Manager: Tor Browser, UX and Community teams
> pili at torproject dot org
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