On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Adrian Buehlmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 04.07.2010 08:51, TK Soh wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Adrian Buehlmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 02.07.2010 09:17, TK Soh wrote:
>>>> I am rather confused on something about the overlay icons (using thg
>>>> 1.1) on Windows XP (32bit, SP3): the overlay icon of modified file
>>>> changes to 'modified' almost immediately after I edit and save a file.
>>>> But the icon remains as 'modified' after I undo the edit and save the
>>>> file. I am aware I can run "Update Icons" to refresh.  Maybe I am
>>>> missing something
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Tk, it's been a while since you posted here :-)
>>
>> Some circumstances have prompted me to pay more attention to
>> TortoiseHg, especially for Windows. BTW, I've looked forward to your
>> response on this thread also ;-)
>>
>>> That's an effect of the shell extension's design, which is a trade-off
>>> between speed, intruding windows processes with python.dll/mercurial or
>>> not and overlay icon state accuracy.
>>>
>>> A trade-off that has been discussed quite a number of times on the
>>> TortoiseHg mailing lists already (IMHO, ad nauseum).
>>
>> I'm sure you and other has spend a lot to discuss this. Given the
>> potential circumstances where I might be using TortoiseHg (on Windows)
>> a lot more, I'd like to understand the topic a bit more. So, I'd
>> appreciate if you can bear with me.
>>
>>> In the use case you cite, the file's timestamp is newer than the file's
>>> timestamp in .hg/dirstate, but the file size hasn't changed (because of
>>> you undoing the file edit).
>>
>> I am slightly confused. Do you mean the status of a file is somehow
>> depending it's mod time and size? I wonder what are the underlying
>> logic/algorithm here.
>>
>>> This state needs a file compare to resolve correctly, which the shell
>>> extension won't do by design (because of the design trade-off choosen).
>>
>> Is there any documentation somewhere (in the source perhaps) on the
>> design? Or you can share a few line if you don't terribly mind doing
>> so.
>>
>>> Try running a 'hg status' in that repo in that case -- mercurial will
>>> update .hg/dirstate and the shell extension will display the correct
>>> icon again (unmodified), even without hitting the F5 key (refresh) in
>>> Windows explorer.
>>>
>>> It might be possible to trigger TortoiseHgOverlayServer.exe from the
>>> shell extension in this case too, which basically does the same as 'hg
>>> status' to update .hg/dirstate. In some cases, this already works
>>> automagically, but apparently not in this one.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone might come-up with a fix fir this specific case which
>>> triggers TortoiseHgOverlayServer.exe in this case as well. Just make
>>> sure you don't introduce any endless loops here -- I've been wary of
>>> these when I made the current overlay handler.
>>>
>>> "Update icons" will update .hg/dirstate manually though, as you already
>>> found out. Which is good enough for me for this case.
>>
>> Several people I worked with had used TortoiseSVN find this confusing,
>> and the need to use "Update icons" is rather cumbersome. I hope we
>> could resolve this.
>>
>>>From the users' stand point, the overlay icons should provides
>> up-to-date info as soon as possible. Else we might as well use the
>> status dialog to get the repo status, since it take a same amount of
>> work (menu clicks) to achieve that.
>
> That's exactly the kind of discussion I'm not at all interested to rehash.

Fair enough. Hopeful someone else can take on the issue soon.

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