On 04.07.2010 08:51, TK Soh wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Adrian Buehlmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 02.07.2010 09:17, TK Soh wrote:
>>> I am rather confused on something about the overlay icons (using thg
>>> 1.1) on Windows XP (32bit, SP3): the overlay icon of modified file
>>> changes to 'modified' almost immediately after I edit and save a file.
>>> But the icon remains as 'modified' after I undo the edit and save the
>>> file. I am aware I can run "Update Icons" to refresh.  Maybe I am
>>> missing something
>>>
>>
>> Hello Tk, it's been a while since you posted here :-)
> 
> Some circumstances have prompted me to pay more attention to
> TortoiseHg, especially for Windows. BTW, I've looked forward to your
> response on this thread also ;-)
> 
>> That's an effect of the shell extension's design, which is a trade-off
>> between speed, intruding windows processes with python.dll/mercurial or
>> not and overlay icon state accuracy.
>>
>> A trade-off that has been discussed quite a number of times on the
>> TortoiseHg mailing lists already (IMHO, ad nauseum).
> 
> I'm sure you and other has spend a lot to discuss this. Given the
> potential circumstances where I might be using TortoiseHg (on Windows)
> a lot more, I'd like to understand the topic a bit more. So, I'd
> appreciate if you can bear with me.
> 
>> In the use case you cite, the file's timestamp is newer than the file's
>> timestamp in .hg/dirstate, but the file size hasn't changed (because of
>> you undoing the file edit).
> 
> I am slightly confused. Do you mean the status of a file is somehow
> depending it's mod time and size? I wonder what are the underlying
> logic/algorithm here.
> 
>> This state needs a file compare to resolve correctly, which the shell
>> extension won't do by design (because of the design trade-off choosen).
> 
> Is there any documentation somewhere (in the source perhaps) on the
> design? Or you can share a few line if you don't terribly mind doing
> so.
> 
>> Try running a 'hg status' in that repo in that case -- mercurial will
>> update .hg/dirstate and the shell extension will display the correct
>> icon again (unmodified), even without hitting the F5 key (refresh) in
>> Windows explorer.
>>
>> It might be possible to trigger TortoiseHgOverlayServer.exe from the
>> shell extension in this case too, which basically does the same as 'hg
>> status' to update .hg/dirstate. In some cases, this already works
>> automagically, but apparently not in this one.
>>
>> Perhaps someone might come-up with a fix fir this specific case which
>> triggers TortoiseHgOverlayServer.exe in this case as well. Just make
>> sure you don't introduce any endless loops here -- I've been wary of
>> these when I made the current overlay handler.
>>
>> "Update icons" will update .hg/dirstate manually though, as you already
>> found out. Which is good enough for me for this case.
> 
> Several people I worked with had used TortoiseSVN find this confusing,
> and the need to use "Update icons" is rather cumbersome. I hope we
> could resolve this.
> 
>>From the users' stand point, the overlay icons should provides
> up-to-date info as soon as possible. Else we might as well use the
> status dialog to get the repo status, since it take a same amount of
> work (menu clicks) to achieve that.

That's exactly the kind of discussion I'm not at all interested to rehash.


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