Hi Joseph,

I'm happy to see your post to the list, and certainly interested in where this 
effort might lead.  I'm also interested in the number of replies you've gotten 
already today, which I take as a good sign!

Several people have mentioned POSSE, and it occurs to me that some people may 
not have seen POSSE mentioned before.  You can read about what it is and how it 
is evolving here:  http://foss2serve.org/index.php/POSSE_Overview  Since the 
responses to this thread include some faculty I haven't met yet, I'll note that 
we are in the process of planning a POSSE for this November and expect to have 
another in the first half of 2015.  Stay tuned to TOS for announcements.

Cheers,

Greg Hislop
Drexel University


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph B. Ottinger
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:53 PM
To: Discussions about Teaching Open Source
Subject: Re: [TOS] Creation of open source curriculum, open invitation

Heidi, our plan presently is to take materials like this (and much
else) and build it into both an artifact (a textbook)  and a curriculum.

The note about the conflicting goals is well-taken, BTW. We'd like to provide 
materials that enable those impassioned to teach open source to work with a 
largely common set of source materials (the textbook), but we'd also like to 
provide a structure with which those with less passion (or less experience) can 
hit the ground running, so to speak, without having to create a working 
curriculum from whole cloth.

We're also trying to consider the needs of the audience; the goals we have 
aren't set in stone as much as they're more or less sandcastings, because we 
expect contributors like POSSE to have things in mind of which we haven't 
thought, and that we should pursue.

Personally, I have no problem accepting appropriately-licensed and attributed 
references, moulding them to the need and medium.

On Wed 02 Jul 2014 02:46:31 PM EDT, Heidi Ellis - Gmail wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I draw your attention to the (somewhat defunct) group of folks 
> interested in teaching materials:
>
> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Teaching_Materials_Project
>
> And how does this relate to the existing text?
>
> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Textbook
>
> Just wanting to make sure that we don't reinvent the wheel. And yes, 
> count me in.
> Heidi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Callaway
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:53 PM
> To: Discussions about Teaching Open Source
> Subject: Re: [TOS] Creation of open source curriculum, open invitation
>
> On 07/02/2014 12:41 PM, Matt Jadud wrote:
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> I'm interested (in a way), but it sounds like you might have 
>> conflicting goals.
>>
>> 1. A textbook is an artefact that brings a lot of words together. It 
>> is "content." Books *sometimes* imply a curriculum.
>>
>> 2. A curriculum (or course, module, etc.) is a value-, goal-, and 
>> objective-driven educational process specification that has many 
>> design facets that are not easily enumerated as "content."
>
> Hi Matt, you're absolutely right. One of the things that we've heard 
> in our investigation on how to promote open source at the university 
> level is that in some places, a textbook is a useful artifact to 
> accelerate the timetable for having a curriculum (or course, module).
>
> We want to built a core set of content (in an open source project) 
> around the core ideals of how open source works. Structuring that 
> content with the explicit goal of generating a textbook will hopefully 
> enable and empower people to setup courses and curriculum in their 
> schools, around a
> (hopefully) standard reference text.
>
> I do think that we want to build out beyond the "textbook", but we're 
> starting there. We're definitely planning to empower this community to 
> go beyond that (and to take the bits of our content that they see as 
> useful and fork them and build other amazing things with them).
>
> This is also not the only place that Red Hat wants to participate in 
> and invest in. We believe in POSSE, and we believe in the value of 
> active learning. We _hope_ that this content (whether in textbook 
> format or simply incorporated into existing material) will simplify 
> the task of delivering an engaging learning experience.
>
> One of the other things that we heard was that course creation was 
> very personal, very individual, at least for the majority of 
> successful ones, that it involved the passion and talents of the 
> educator creating an experience that they knew worked (even if always 
> being refined/tweaked/overhauled). I did not want to be so arrogant as 
> to state that it would be possible/successful for us to create an 
> entire "prepackaged" course on Teaching Open Source (tm) that would be 
> applicable.
>
> It seemed more logical (to me) to start with the idea of generating 
> (and merging existing) common reference material ("the textbook") and 
> providing a community space for educators to discuss how they've built 
> successful classes/seminars/experiences around that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ~tom
>
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