All - Great discussion! I am coming from a simple place - my students and I find the TOS book valuable as a student textbook - I use it in combination with Software Development by Tucker, et. al and other sources to inform a software engineering practicum in which students join and contribute to H/FOSS projects. Each year students make suggestions on improving the TOS book and I have suggestions as well. My email was a first pass at taking action in that regard as the svn links are broken and I had hoped that maybe the book was alive and well somewhere else such as GitHub. My fantasy was that next year a student team might join and contribute to the textbook under the mentorship of the authors and that I might submit various pull requests to help tune the text. Students in this class almost universally praise the notion of an open source textbook as a potential way for them to interact with their education. Thus TOS seems like a great candidate for experiments in this vein. I am only secondarily interested in building resources for other educators as I feel those who will travel this road know when they reach the fork and how to find solutions as for example exploring the 5-year history of my own students' blogs, the syllabi of these courses and those of other practitioners, and published papers on teaching open source.
Nick - 1) Yes I am willing to participate on panel. 2) Explore both avenues, given my above statement. Thanks for your attention, Jim On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Nick Yeates <[email protected]> wrote: > > > - Nick Yeates > Open Source Strategist > http://community.redhat.com > +1 301-219-6149 > > > On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Karsten Wade <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > >> On 04/06/2015 12:51 PM, Nick Yeates wrote: > >> Jim, Karsten, > >> > >> We have been working on a new version of this content with a > >> slightly different approach. See building blocks of it here: > >> https://github.com/nyeates/os-curriculum > >> > >> Make sure to read the README. This is more about teaching > >> professors how to teach or include open source. We will curate > >> links and metadata instead of actual content. It will house example > >> lessons, projects and rubrics, which is what we have seen teachers > >> need. > > > > Right, the POSSE textbook was an in-time response of a not-quite > > different angle of intention, but providing the material we weren't > > seeing available under an open content license at that time. > > > >> Jim, two things: 1) Do you want to take part in our small > >> expert-feedback panel (7 prof’s for now) - directional feedback for > >> now, not specific 2) Where would you ideally like to go from here: > >> a) to give us the content updates that you do have (added to > >> Karsten's existing content out on Fedora space) b) wait and see > >> where the new curriculum takes us > >> > >> I would suggest a little bit of all the above. > > > > - From your description above it sounds as if the Practical OSS > > Exploration textbook is one of the resources that you would curate a > > link toward? > > Yes, I believe you are correct. I need to swallow more of your content > first, but I believe you are correct. We are still trying to figure out how > this all fits together, and that advice is sound. > > > Do we know what usage statistics are like for that book? Is it worth > > taking some updates for it and using it as a reference to pull ideas > > from for educators reading the Teaching Open Source Curriculum? > > No idea on usage. I think it is worth keeping separate and referencing as > a primary source. > > > > >> Karsten: Where is your source located? anywhere public or sharable? > > The wiki is really the upstream source, we used DocBook XML as an > > interim format. That said, I can't yet find the DocBook XML source but > > it should be somewhere, I'm not recalling where. I'll have to ask > > around for clues! > > We are using asciidoc for now. It's loads better than xml and tags for > something so content heavy. > > > > >> Also, am I right to assume that yours will go out of update, once > >> this new one is live, or that it already has? > > > > That's not clear to me, if the book is being used it sounds as if it > > might be one of your referenced works rather than supplanting it? > > Maybe you can explain a little further about e.g. sample lessons? > > > > I'd also appreciate seeing what changes Jim has in mind, they may turn > > the material into something more useful. > > You have solidified to me that it is likely to stay separate and continue > to exist and to be referenced. > > > > > Anyway, I'll track down the XML and get it up on GitHub at least. > > > > - - Karsten > > - -- > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade .^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff > > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org \ http://community.redhat.com > > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlUi/SUACgkQ2ZIOBq0ODEHbIgCdF/sKdqaz3u7CJdLFrvYYefTl > > OgcAn1QEkXXUM/Ua83YVdBch3DiniJiF > > =ediX > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
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