On Thursday 26 June 2008 11:15:28 am Michael Stratmann wrote:
> On 26 Jun., 10:54, Jani Tiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If we have enhancement states like:
> >
> > 'new', 'accepted', 'rejected' and 'implemented'
> >
> > And bug states like:
> > 'new', 'accepted', 'invalid', 'testing', 'fixed'
> >
> > There is not much common... So it would lead to one more factor: You
> > need to be able to restrict type to change depending on current state.
>
> There is no need to split bugs and enhancements (it's artificial
> anyway). Ticket type shall remain changeable. However, the present
> workflow/state machine is too simple, at least for professional use.

Too simple?  Everything you list below is doable with the provided 
configurable workflow and a trivial plugin to add a few permissions.
(And the latter part I plan to add to core so WORKFLOW_<whatever> permissions 
in the workflow are automagically added.  But in the mean time, a very simple 
plugin to provide a few extra permissions will suffice.)
The time-delay part has been addressed... write a cron job.

> 1. The Change Control Board (CCB) is missing (managers, core
> developers). Usually in 'New', you assign to somebody to
> 'Investigate'. By this it is also clear, which tickets are totally
> unhandled and which ones have at least a responsible developer. After
> Investigation (make proposal on what and how to do, effort, prio),
> wait for political decision 'CCB'. If accepted the ticket becomes a
> 'ToDo', with certain priority, and mile stone / delivery date.
> 'Reject' otherwise.
>
> 2. Every change needs to be tested, be a bug, a feature, a not code
> related thing or plain docu, so after ToDo you always get a 'Test',
> After 'Test' goes to 'QA', to check for process adherence. Then you
> get to 'Closed'. Test or QA failing goes back to ToDo or even earlier.
>
> 3. Optionally you might want to separate the change and it's
> integration. Maybe not in a company, but for open source I think it
> would be nice.
>
> 4. 'Reject' is not final. Give the owner a chance to 'Reopen' (similar
> to 'New'). At my last customer had a lot of upset test engineers,
> because 'Reject' was not told them and often done in disagreement.
> If owner agrees or after time limit, nobody opposes, 'Reject' becomes
> 'Closed' as well.
>
> 5. Of course now we have some more states: New, Investigate, CCB,
> ToDo, Test, QA, Closed, Reject, Reopen; optionally Integrate
>
> 6. Usually certain roles within a project have rights for certain
> state transitions only. Esp. CCB and QA are often protected, to ensure
> integrity and quality.
>
> The shortcomings of too few states are imho observable on t.e.o
> already.
>
> If there is interest from the core developers, I am willing to make
> some more formal proposal or support in some other way.

Try implementing what you want with the existing tools first.  Then show us 
the shortcomings you run into.

Eli
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