On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <step...@xemacs.org>wrote:
> anatoly techtonik writes: > > > b.p.o still uses patched version of Roundup while with a full upstream > > commit access it should use standard version. > > As far as I can tell, you're suggesting that Python should take over > and/or try to dictate to another established project. I don't think > that's a good idea. If you really think these things are that > important, go work with upstream, get commit access there yourself. You're wrong. I did't even have a slight though about making Python take over another established product. I am speaking about the culture of eating your own dogfood and collaborating with upstream. Don't you think that changes that are made to b.p.o like one click OpenID/OAuth support and revisions linking in text messages are useful to all users of Roundup? Do you want Roundup to monitor b.p.o and all other projects to merge useful changes back? I know the person who took the problem of merging patches from b.p.o to Roundup seriously, and looking at his logs, I must say that he spent a lot of time - maybe even weeks trying to cut the changes from the b.p.o version and split it to be a manageable Roundup fork. And FWIW, I already have commit access for Roundup. > > We need to recruit more people then. > > Who's this "we"? I'm perfectly happy with b.p.o, I don't need it to > turn into facebook.python.org. But feel free to go recruiting. > Facebook supports open source initiatives all right - http://www.opencompute.org/, and GitHub, if you look at it, is a social platform. If you don't want b.p.o to be the place where people communicate and coordinate in a human way, then I bet you'd more comfortable using Excel for your own tasks, so thanks for caring about independence of Roundup from Python hackers. Am I angry at you accusing me of something that is not true, maybe I am misunderstanding something, but there is nothing personal. So I hope that when (if) it turns out to be something good in the end, you won't have reasons to resist in accepting that it is cool. CU. ;)
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