[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Gro�johann):

> Your default method is ssh, therefore /name@machine:/ should have
> invoked Tramp with the ssh method.
>
> Is this the case?

i had no tramp configuration whatsoever and use the 21.3.50.1 cvs
emacs tramp.  but the default method was indeed set to "ssh"
nonetheless.

so i change it to "ftp" as per the docstring, but the problem
persists.  this has nothing to do with the access method, because i
can get the file, but i can't _save_ it.  the problem remains the
same, but i haven't yet gotten a verbose backtrace.  the current one,
after changing the default method, is:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil)
  logand(nil 3072)

  byte-code("�W
  �W��\n�\"W�W��\f!�V�W
�'��a�\f!
�H�8��S��S�8X�S�8�S�\f!?)�a�\f\n#��n�\f�#�\nBƇ"
  [file-precious-flag backup-by-copying modes
  backup-by-copying-when-linked real-file-name
  backup-by-copying-when-mismatch 0 logand 3072 file-nlinks 1
  file-attributes 2 9 file-ownership-preserved-p backup-buffer-copy
  rename-file t backup-by-copying-when-privileged-mismatch attr
  backupname setmodes] 4)

  byte-code("� �=� �=�
  ����\n\"!�!��͏��
  �:�:��Ϗ�A��.*�" [targets
  delete-old-versions real-file-name buffer-file-name modes
  buffer-backed-up t nil y-or-n-p format "Delete excess backup
  versions of %s? " file-modes (byte-code "�W
  �W��\n�\"W�W��\f!�V�W
�'��a�\f!
�H�8��S��S�8X�S�8�S�\f!?)�a�\f\n#��n�\f�#�\nBƇ"
  [file-precious-flag backup-by-copying modes
  backup-by-copying-when-linked real-file-name
  backup-by-copying-when-mismatch 0 logand 3072 file-nlinks 1
  file-attributes 2 9 file-ownership-preserved-p backup-buffer-copy
  rename-file t backup-by-copying-when-privileged-mismatch attr
  backupname setmodes] 4) ((file-error ...)) (byte-code "�@!�"
  [targets delete-file] 2) ((file-error)) setmodes] 5)

  backup-buffer()
  basic-save-buffer-2()
  basic-save-buffer-1()
  basic-save-buffer()
  save-buffer(1)
  call-interactively(save-buffer)

> What happens with /ftp:name@machine:/ instead of /name@machine:/?

no change.  i'll get back with the verbose backtrace soon :)

  clemens


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