"I'm not especially religious, but my point was exactly that, the "false gods" will be phased out over time, not incorporated. There is no reason someone could not create a program that handles flash securely for example." From the looks of it, unfortunately, that's doesn't seem to be happening with Open Source. Not in my view, anyway.

I think Open Source is actually incorporating proprietary-ness into their "software beliefs", if you will.

And the point I was trying (and apparently failed, sorry!) to make with my ELP, Tull, Genesis example was not that the devs don't care about security (they do!), but that it's not their only concern so one can't say they're all about security (just like the fact that despite those bands caring a lot about money, they're not all about them since they still make great music).

Perhaps I was placing a tad too much focus on a few words......

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