From: legimet.c...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:47:44 +0200 (CEST)
> Where is this new infrastructure Ruben talked about? If people are > going to help out, there needs to be some code, but I don't see it. The bones of it are documented in the now defunct Developer Meeting IRC logs here https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/developer-meetings Given I can only help bits of the time I haven't pestered Ruben for updates on it since. So e.g. jxself, Thinkpenguin Chris or SirGrant might well know a lot more about what shape the idea has now. But the plans were for a tailored gitorious instance and a new separate community repo. Aklis was tasked with the gitorious instance. So with the community repos AFAIK you personally wouldn't need to put your Abrowser KDE mods in a PPA, Trisquel would be capable of hosting it for you. I dunno your IT background so the following might be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs. To answer your question, where is the code? AFAICT in the process of commissioning not development. Replacing or adding to a current live system with a new one based on the final copy of the live data is always a tricky business no matter how carefully one plans. There's nearly always a stoppage for final testing and unanticipated stuff which turns up and takes additional time no matter how careful you are beforehand. In terms of real life business systems, going live transferring to a new system like this over only a weekend is really good work for a whole team at SME size. There'd be a lot more complaints and fallout if a new system was commissioned and it had bugs and data errors (e.g. a three week old package repo) which resulted in a prolonged period of unreliable service. These days there can't be alphas and betas for an extant distro repo of course. So contrary to what some people seem to think this delay is probably proper quality professionalism in the face of very limited 'IT department' resources. The official launch date (i.e. when its intended you can use the new function) and documentation may or may not come at the same time as it goes live (i.e. when patches start flowing properly again). Depends how Ruben has it scheduled, it might be a Belenos release date announcement thing based on his assessment of bangs for the buck for supporting alpha/beta during Belenos development. So you personally might have to find him and ask if you want to use it straight away. But really someone like you should be able to work it out from just having the relevant hostnames if they're anything like decent web services. The above is just from general principles and a bit of published info. As I say others who, unlike me, are 'in' the team (jxself, aklis, sirgrant et al) might well know a lot more - it's just that, as I'm sure you'll agree, getting the system live and testing it is a lot more important than answering our questions which just slow the process down if they're involved at all. Which for the benefit of unhappy onlookers is why Ruben doesn't talk to us much. It once took me three months to develop an ~8K line billing system in a language I can mean over 300 lines a day in over an entire project when it's just me (you would too, it never was worth spending the time to learn to code VB at full speed). The rest of the time was spent dealing with the boss as he explained his latest great idea for the system (which was always in the spec I'd given him). Similarly wanting Ruben to talk to us more and wanting more from the distro are mutually incompatible, IMO he's doing the right thing ignoring us.
