hiy stbf,

you clearly get it, and that's fantastic. no need to apologise for being able to understand that this is a huge paradigm shift in computing :)

that's a very interesting view taken by your parents. i say "interesting".. i mean "misinformed", as it strikes me that they totally misunderstand what it's about. if they're older and not technically literate, this is not surprising. perhaps this would be an opportunity for you to explain to them that no, you don't need them to be making decisions on your behalf any more, that yes, you're younger and that means "more technically literate". they might actually appreciate that and be really proud of you, that you're happy to make a case to them, as it would tell them that you're standing up for yourself.

if you're brave enough to do that, and say "scuse me, i love you, but this is something i understand and believe in and i'd like to back it" then here's some potentially useful things to say (including printing this message out for them - hello mr and mrs stbf, my name's luke kenneth casson leighton, i'm 46, and i've been a software libre engineer for over 20 years, that means i'm strongly committed to ethical business practices, and from that experience i've been studying and working on how to make a big difference in the world for the past 5 years so that people no longer have to be afraid of their computers - and that includes you).

many people totally misunderstand what crowd-funding is... *including* people who *RUN* crowdfunding campaigns. crowdfunding is a gift economy: it's not a shop. you're not *buying* a "product with a warranty". you're not placing an order. you're not entering into a "contract-of-sale". kickstarter actually had to change their rules back in i think it was 2012 but it still hasn't made any difference: most backers still think of crowdfunding as "a place to go shopping for cool stuff".

what you *are* doing is - if you have any sense - analysing the background of the people behind the campaign, seeing what they are doing and *why* they are doing it - and in the *genuine* crowdfunding campaigns you're following along the story of how they manage to pull it off... or in some cases not... so that everybody learns.

the earliest crowd-funded hardware campaigns didn't even *have* crowd-funding sites, they just did it on their own! 4,000 people sent something like $300 deposits *each* to the openpandora team, and it was over 2 years before they delivered! during that time, they kept in touch, they told people what was going on, all the problems, all the successes, all the hilarious cock-ups that needed fixing, and people loved it.

for the most part yes you're absolutely right, mr and mrs stbf: most people who run crowd-funding campaigns are naive and/or greedy and/or think they're running a pre-orders "shop": they've heard of this thing called "crowd-funding", they've heard of this word called "open", but they have absolutely no idea what they're actually committing themselves to... and they end up lying to themselves *and* their backers.

by complete contrast what i'm doing is taking a stand against the mainstream computing industry, with a strategy that they've *already* declared, thanks to their vested and selfish interests, to be "unprofitable". in fact, many of the mainstream mass-volume manufacturers are behind the efforts to destroy the "right to repair" groups efforts to have the law changed so that people have the LEGAL right to repair their electronics (all mass-produced computing appliances are designed for manufacture, now, not for repair).

this is what your son wants to back. he *fully recognises* that he's not "buying a product" - he's backing an *idea* and a strategy that, if successful at the scale it's intended to reach over the next ten years, could make a significant improvement in how people think of their computers... within *your* lifetime not just his. when i ask people of your age if they are afraid of computers, if they are afraid to use them "in case they do something wrong", they answer - really surprised - "why yes i am!" and the relief is palpable and clearly visible on their faces, as if for the first time in their lives they have had the opportunity to voice something that has been worrying them without them ever really truly realising it.

you're not alone. this is not a computer design that makes people scared to use them, or resent buying them. it's the total opposite.

stbf, if you *really* believe in this, then here's some potential things that you can do - and i would suggest being honest and up-front with your parents that this is what you're going to do. tell them, "ok, so you won't help, but i fully intend to back this project. what i'm going to do is, i'm going to go and find friends - people that i trust - who have a credit card, i'm going to earn some money myself, and i'm going to GIVE it to that person and ask them to back this project for me".

or, if you feel comfortable explaining it to your parents, you could find someone willing to sell you some bitcoin, then contact supp...@crowdsupply.com (cc me - luke.leigh...@gmail.com) and ask for their bitcoin address.

if you explain that you're starting with say only $5 they'll look really puzzled that you're going to all that effort just to back somebody's ideas with $5. that should get the message across to them that it's *really* not about the "warranty". also let them know that i've had over $1,000 in donations *during* the campaign, that i've had donations from *individuals* in the software libre community over the past 5 years totalling something like $3,000, that i've spent something like $20,000 of my own money to bring this to people, and that even chris, from thinkpenguin, has been *sponsoring* me full-time for the past 2 years, *not* "paying" or "contracting" me. it's gift economy, and it's beautiful.




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