The shit the CIA did with their "not ipso facto immoral" tools is what matters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA#History

I'm not saying Russia, China, or basically any government and powerful enough company are saints though. Speaking of France 'I've seen the subject twice I think), the abusive state of urgency wasn't mainly targeting terrorists. It's surfing on the fear created by the fucked up terrorist attacks and enforcing more and more mass surveillance on the inner territory. With the abuse that comes with that, which has very little to do with state security.

So when you write that you're OK with spying foreigners, as long as Americans (US) are not, it makes me cringe. You know, maybe, just maybe, there might be good people in those "foreign menacing countries". But who cares, right? It's for your security (sure...).

For better or worse, free software and a sound browsing attitude is for nearly everyone.

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