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I will process, consider and evaluate the data you sent. Thank you. David On 2-Aug-09, at 3:12 PM, Martin Foster wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > Hi David - it's almost 9pm - 21:00hrs. What time is it where you are? > > Re Nirvana and Clear. I think there can be many interpretations. But > just as a reminder the following quotes are relevant - don't you think? > > "However, never will you be entirely free of the necessity to run RI as > an adjunct to the exercises until you’ve got to the very end of Level > Five and achieved Nirvana." > > AND: > > "If this technology ever becomes lost to mankind it will only be > because > some faint hearts could not confront the horrors of Level Two, and so > will change it all into something pleasant - and useless. Never miss > it: > Level Two is the only barrier that sits between mankind and the > attaining of Nirvana. He cannot face Level Two, and so he goes to a > separate therapist to help him through it - never realizing that by so > doing he has negated his own responsibility in the matter, and so > doomed > himself to failure." > > regards, > > Martin > > David Pelly wrote: >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> >> Hi Martin, >> >> I acknowledge and thank you for your reply. >> >> SEE BELOW; >> On 2-Aug-09, at 2:17 PM, Martin Foster wrote: >> >> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >>> ************ >>> Dear David, >>> >>> Just reading TROM is a freeing action and from the para or two below >>> that you wrote it seems you are are having change. Why not read it >>> through again and do lots of RI. And - here comes an evaluation. - >>> Don't forget to give yourself a very well done on having read through >>> TROM and the changes you have brought about for yourself. >>> >> >> OK. >> >>> All the abuse or invalidations one has suffered throughout many >>> lifetimes are centred on convincing one that one cannot create. >>> >> >> I GOT THAT. >> >>> Doing RI rehabilitates and re-asserts that one can create. >>> >>> Do lots of RI and when you feel up to it - start "time-breaking" >>> interspersed with RI. >>> >>> There is no status of Beingness in TROM, such as on the CoS bridge. >>> There are no TROM clears or OT's. >>> >> >> WELL IF NOT CLEARS, DENNIS SAYS ONE WILL REACH NIRVANA. >> >> THAT IS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF SAYING THE SAME THING, FROM THE WAY >> I >> SEE IT. >> >> NOT? >> >> BY THE WAY, WHAT TIME IS IT IN SA NOW? >> >>> Wishing you the very best David - You are and always will be your own >>> best auditor. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> David Pelly wrote: >>> >>>> snipped: >>>> Over the last month or so, I think I have done most of level two, >>>> and >>>> I think; level three of TROM, just by being aware of releasing and >>>> looking at incidents and if an incident or rather a pattern or >>>> condition of anxiety, and related emotional disorders; "charge', >>>> would >>>> be restimulated, I would become aware of it and consciously release >>>> it, and it would release in great measure. This would occur while I >>>> was carrying on with my daily activities. >>>> >>>> Primarily while going for walks. I would connect with charge and it >>>> would release like volcanoes. This went on daily, for over a week. >>>> >>>> This went on with such intensity that I had no time for so called >>>> "time breaking", nor were there always any incidents in view, just a >>>> lot of charge. >>>> >>>> I would just be conscious of what was going on and be aware of >>>> present >>>> time and my environment. >>>> >>>> I was surprised that all this charge was not released by auditing. >>>> >>>> There is still some charge left, but it does not usually come up, >>>> except when I am in an restimulative environment. >>>> >>>> I think this charge build up, over the years, is what caused stomach >>>> ulcers and an abdominal hernia, around five or six years ago and >>>> continue to this day. These are very painful and problematic. >>>> >>>> This was quite beneficial. My ulcers and hernia are now not as >>>> reactive, meaning do not flare up as much. >>>> >>>> That part, for now at least, feels better. >>>> >>>> >>>> snipped >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trom mailing list >>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date: >> 08/02/09 05:56:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
