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Hi David
Thanks for your reply, as you may know I very often mention things on a
spiritual group and I always gain a deeper understanding from doing that, I
think the action of writing breaks me out of fixed ideas.
I should have said I have no "interest" in reincarnation, not "belief ", that
is the wrong word.
I have a different way of looking at reincarnation, maybe you or someone can
refresh my memory but I seem to remember that reincarnation in Scientology was
not exactly the same as in some types of Buddhism.
I know I have read or heard something from him (LRH) where he explained this,
it's many years ago now but I am sure that is correct, in other words, as I
understood it, reicarnation does not occurr on a linear timetrack as it appears
to do in our minds.
In one of theTROM lectures, I forget which one, Dennis explains the Universe is
like a canister or tube, closed at one end, once we enter that unverse the
whole lot is avilable to us, any place, any time period.
I think you may agree that there are many spiritual ideas a person can read
about and then decide that they may like a particular idea and then put that
idea into their minds and then hold it there as a belief, but until I find out
that there is actual truth there for me I have no interest in that area.
I have run many people into past lives, so there certainly seems to be
something there but for me, I think there may well be another mechanism or way
of explaining this sort of thing.
Hows it going with the TROM, having quite a few wins here in understanding and
the processing, I don't think I have ever yawned so much in my life.
Best
Mike
On 5-Sep-09, at 1:13 PM, Mickel wrote:
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Hi David
I can only think it is a typing error.
Yes, I think it is probably a typing error. I was joking when I wrote the
note to you.
By the way, I don't believe in reincarnation, it has never been part of my
spiritual search.
I have looked at both options. I have no proof of certainty on either. I do
have opinions and or viewpoints which do not carry much weight.
One of my viewpoints now is that what ever is true for you is true for you.
It may be true for some and not true for others or maybe there are other
possibilities. I am open to learning the facts or truth of such things and all
things and I keep my eyes, ears and mind open.
The Oasphe Bible a channeled book by John Newbrough in 1870 says there is no
such thing as reincarnation and explains why we are fooled into thinking that
we are reincarnated.
The book is one of the best books I have ever read. It presents data and
answers to almost all questions that man has asked or pondered about. It
provides a good alternative viewpoint to scn on many subjects. It's viewpoints
are also contradictory to mainstream viewpoints.
If you want to know where to get one, let me know and I will give you the
contact info. It is not sold on the mainstream market.
My viewpoint on this, is that whether we believe in it or not will not likely
change much. Because believing in some thing does not make it true.
The truth about anything is not determined by beliefs or argument and I think
it is foolish to believe in or argue about intangible things one way or another.
Any such activities are nothing more than mere conjecture and speculation or
maybe illusions and delusions. And such activities as beliefs amounts to a lack
of intellectual integrity.
I am pragmatic and or logical, I basically only operate on things that I can
prove. Everything else I will deal with it as I have to. My opinions will not
change anything.
In other words I operate on the basic datum or principle of intellectual
integrity that one should never say anything that one cannot prove.
I don't spend much time on stuff that I cannot prove other than for some
entertainment on occasion.
I have no idea why anyone would want to return to a life in the physical
universe, unless they are hooked on sex or worldly goods, something like that,
I only dropped down here for a visit, to observe things here for awhile.
My viewpoint on the reason why beings would want to reincarnate if it is true
or possible, is to become a master of the physical plane or in scn terms MEST :
Matter, Energy, Space and Time.
If what I said sounds confusing, it is, and all confusing or contradicting
points are true. : )
I have spent too much time on this subject already. : )
I could spend this time better by trying to figure out level three, four and
five of TROM, that is if I had the mental energy.
Seems I got caught up in the game, once I understand the rules of the game,
I'm off, there are far better timeless zones to play games in than this one.
I would like to know more about these zones.
Cheers,
David
I am not joking by the way.
Best
Mike
Hi Mike,
That is indeed a good one.
That may be prof that we don't die or and anything is possible.
: )
David
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