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Please disregard my latest message. I saw too late that it was already published. Happy New Year Leo Faulhaber 2012/1/1 Leo Faulhaber <leo.faulha...@gmail.com> > 1. Re: Games being aberrating (Pete McLaughlin) >> 2. Living life without aberration (David M. Pelly) > > 3. Some changes to the German translation of TROM (Leo Faulhaber) > > > Hello > > I made some changes to the German translation of TROM. > You might want to re-dowload the updated chapters from Pete's site: > http://tromhelp.com/services > I added a line at the top of the documents with the last change date so > you > can see whether there was a change or not. > > Best wishes > Leo Faulhaber > > > >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) >> From: Pete McLaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> >> To: xriz <xri...@yahoo.de>, The Resolution of Mind list >> <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> Message-ID: <1325348269.141.yahoomail...@web162103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> HI Li >> ? These are very thought provoking statements. >> >> Is it possible to simply Live and not play games?? >> >> In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to >> others" some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while >> looking for someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find >> me. >> If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary >> postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a >> games condition is equally difficult. >> I may be simply being here on my property bothering no one but my >> neighbor may have the counter postulate that he wants no neighbors.? He can >> make my life difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here >> directly or he can call up the county officials and make complaints about >> my real or imagined violations of obscure rules. >> On the other hand does this came about because I have the aberated >> compulsion to be the victim in a game were I can claim in righteous >> indignation that I was on my own property bothering no one? >> >> Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples >> games and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to >> harass me? >> >> Very interesting ideas. >> >> Thanks Li and David >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: xriz <xri...@yahoo.de> >> >To: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:14 AM >> >Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> > >> >************* >> >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org >> >************ >> > >> > >> >The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place. >> >There is a difference between living and playing games. >> >Games were a substitute. Later this substitute became a badly wanted >> thing. >> >Goals and their games are a condition of being aberrated twice. >> > >> > >> > >> >Li >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> > Von: David M. Pelly <david.pe...@hotmail.ca> >> >An: TROM List <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> >Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011 >> >Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> > >> >************* >> >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org >> >************ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play >> games without becoming aberrated or becoming effect. >> > >> >David >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Trom mailing list >> >Trom@lists.newciv.org >> >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Trom mailing list >> >Trom@lists.newciv.org >> >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111231/d9060fb7/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:38:35 -0500 >> From: "David M. Pelly" <david.pe...@hotmail.ca> >> To: TROM List <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> Subject: [TROM1] Living life without aberration >> Message-ID: <snt108-w839f4585772ad56b8c4c290...@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> There is a lot more to understanding life and games than there is in scn >> and TROM. >> >> >> Hubbard gave the data on how to do that,or where it is, in logic 8 and >> in "how to study a science", >> >> and maybe other places that I am not aware of. >> >> I would say that because of that data, Hubbard is exonerated from all >> his faults and crimes. >> >> It is the clue to the way out of the trap of scn. >> >> Those who have eyes to see, ears to hear and a mind to understand will do >> so. >> >> Scn is a trap for fools and a power and a freedom for the wise. Therefore >> the name Excalibur. >> >> >> >> >> >> Based on my experience, the knowledge of how to live without becoming >> aberrated is contained within the bible. >> >> They are often contained as messages ( subliminal messages ) within >> allegorical stories, etc. , and not laid out in clear and plain language, >> as in 1,2,3. >> >> >> >> You might also find some useful data here too: >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~loveguru/TRUTHOLOGY.htm >> >> >> >> Read the chapters highlighted on this page. >> >> http://www.masterjules.net/ >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> >> HI Li >> ? These are very thought provoking statements. >> >> Is it possible to simply Live and not play games?? >> >> In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to >> others" some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while >> looking for someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find >> me. >> If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary >> postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a >> games condition is equally difficult. >> I may be simply being here on my property bothering no one but my >> neighbor may have the counter postulate that he wants no neighbors.? He can >> make my life difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here >> directly or he can call up the county officials and make complaints about >> my real or imagined violations of obscure rules. >> On the other hand does this came about because I have the aberated >> compulsion to be the victim in a game were I can claim in righteous >> indignation that I was on my own property bothering no one? >> >> Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples >> games and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to >> harass me? >> >> Very interesting ideas. >> >> Thanks Li and David >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: xriz >> >To: The Resolution of Mind list >> >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:14 AM >> >Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> > >> >************* >> >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org >> >************ >> > >> > >> >The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place. >> >There is a difference between living and playing games. >> >Games were a substitute. Later this substitute became a badly wanted >> thing. >> >Goals and their games are a condition of being aberrated twice. >> > >> > >> > >> >Li >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> > Von: David M. Pelly >> >An: TROM List >> >Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011 >> >Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> > >> >************* >> >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org >> >************ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play >> games without becoming aberrated or becoming effect. >> > >> >David >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Trom mailing list >> >Trom@lists.newciv.org >> >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Trom mailing list >> >Trom@lists.newciv.org >> >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > >> > >> > >> HI Li These are very thought provoking statements. >> Is it possible to simply Live and not play games? >> In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to >> others" some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while >> looking for someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find >> me.If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary >> postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a >> games condition is equally difficult.I may be simply being here on my >> property bothering no one but my neighbor may have the counter postulate >> that he wants no neighbors. He can make my life >> difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here directly or he >> can call up the county officials and make complaints about my real or >> imagined violations of obscure rules.On the other hand does this came about >> because I have the aberated compulsion to be the victim in a game were I >> can claim in righteous indignation that I was on my own property bothering >> no one? >> Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples >> games and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to >> harass me? >> Very interesting ideas. >> Thanks Li and David >> Pete >> From: xriz <xri...@yahoo.de> >> To: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> >> >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> >> The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place.There >> is a difference between living and playing games.Games were a substitute. >> Later this substitute became a badly wanted thing.Goals and their games are >> a condition of being aberrated twice. >> >> Li >> Von: David M. Pelly <david.pe...@hotmail.ca> >> An: TROM List >> <trom@lists.newciv.org> >> Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011 >> Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating >> >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play >> games without becoming aberrated or becoming effect. >> >> David >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111231/566ed1a6/attachment.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> >> End of Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 25 >> ************************************ >> > >
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