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> > 1. Re: Games being aberrating (Pete McLaughlin) > 2. Living life without aberration (David M. Pelly)
3. Some changes to the German translation of TROM (Leo Faulhaber) Hello I made some changes to the German translation of TROM. You might want to re-dowload the updated chapters from Pete's site: http://tromhelp.com/services I added a line at the top of the documents with the last change date so you can see whether there was a change or not. Best wishes Leo Faulhaber > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) > From: Pete McLaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> > To: xriz <xri...@yahoo.de>, The Resolution of Mind list > <trom@lists.newciv.org> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > Message-ID: <1325348269.141.yahoomail...@web162103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > HI Li > ? These are very thought provoking statements. > > Is it possible to simply Live and not play games?? > > In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to > others" some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while > looking for someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find > me. > If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary > postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a > games condition is equally difficult. > I may be simply being here on my property bothering no one but my neighbor > may have the counter postulate that he wants no neighbors.? He can make my > life difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here directly or he > can call up the county officials and make complaints about my real or > imagined violations of obscure rules. > On the other hand does this came about because I have the aberated > compulsion to be the victim in a game were I can claim in righteous > indignation that I was on my own property bothering no one? > > Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples > games and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to > harass me? > > Very interesting ideas. > > Thanks Li and David > > Pete > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: xriz <xri...@yahoo.de> > >To: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> > >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:14 AM > >Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > > > >************* > >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org > >************ > > > > > >The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place. > >There is a difference between living and playing games. > >Games were a substitute. Later this substitute became a badly wanted > thing. > >Goals and their games are a condition of being aberrated twice. > > > > > > > >Li > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > Von: David M. Pelly <david.pe...@hotmail.ca> > >An: TROM List <trom@lists.newciv.org> > >Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011 > >Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > > > >************* > >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org > >************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play > games without becoming aberrated or becoming effect. > > > >David > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Trom mailing list > >Trom@lists.newciv.org > >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Trom mailing list > >Trom@lists.newciv.org > >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111231/d9060fb7/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:38:35 -0500 > From: "David M. Pelly" <david.pe...@hotmail.ca> > To: TROM List <trom@lists.newciv.org> > Subject: [TROM1] Living life without aberration > Message-ID: <snt108-w839f4585772ad56b8c4c290...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot more to understanding life and games than there is in scn > and TROM. > > > Hubbard gave the data on how to do that,or where it is, in logic 8 and > in "how to study a science", > > and maybe other places that I am not aware of. > > I would say that because of that data, Hubbard is exonerated from all his > faults and crimes. > > It is the clue to the way out of the trap of scn. > > Those who have eyes to see, ears to hear and a mind to understand will do > so. > > Scn is a trap for fools and a power and a freedom for the wise. Therefore > the name Excalibur. > > > > > > Based on my experience, the knowledge of how to live without becoming > aberrated is contained within the bible. > > They are often contained as messages ( subliminal messages ) within > allegorical stories, etc. , and not laid out in clear and plain language, > as in 1,2,3. > > > > You might also find some useful data here too: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~loveguru/TRUTHOLOGY.htm > > > > Read the chapters highlighted on this page. > > http://www.masterjules.net/ > > > David > > > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > HI Li > ? These are very thought provoking statements. > > Is it possible to simply Live and not play games?? > > In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to > others" some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while > looking for someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find > me. > If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary > postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a > games condition is equally difficult. > I may be simply being here on my property bothering no one but my neighbor > may have the counter postulate that he wants no neighbors.? He can make my > life difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here directly or he > can call up the county officials and make complaints about my real or > imagined violations of obscure rules. > On the other hand does this came about because I have the aberated > compulsion to be the victim in a game were I can claim in righteous > indignation that I was on my own property bothering no one? > > Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples > games and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to > harass me? > > Very interesting ideas. > > Thanks Li and David > > Pete > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: xriz > >To: The Resolution of Mind list > >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:14 AM > >Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > > > >************* > >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org > >************ > > > > > >The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place. > >There is a difference between living and playing games. > >Games were a substitute. Later this substitute became a badly wanted > thing. > >Goals and their games are a condition of being aberrated twice. > > > > > > > >Li > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > Von: David M. Pelly > >An: TROM List > >Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011 > >Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > > > >************* > >The following message is relayed to you by? trom@lists.newciv.org > >************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play > games without becoming aberrated or becoming effect. > > > >David > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Trom mailing list > >Trom@lists.newciv.org > >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Trom mailing list > >Trom@lists.newciv.org > >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > > HI Li These are very thought provoking statements. > Is it possible to simply Live and not play games? > In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to > others" some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while > looking for someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find > me.If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary > postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a > games condition is equally difficult.I may be simply being here on my > property bothering no one but my neighbor may have the counter postulate > that he wants no neighbors. He can make my life > difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here directly or he > can call up the county officials and make complaints about my real or > imagined violations of obscure rules.On the other hand does this came about > because I have the aberated compulsion to be the victim in a game were I > can claim in righteous indignation that I was on my own property bothering > no one? > Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples > games and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to > harass me? > Very interesting ideas. > Thanks Li and David > Pete > From: xriz <xri...@yahoo.de> > To: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:14 AM > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place.There > is a difference between living and playing games.Games were a substitute. > Later this substitute became a badly wanted thing.Goals and their games are > a condition of being aberrated twice. > > Li > Von: David M. Pelly <david.pe...@hotmail.ca> > An: TROM List > <trom@lists.newciv.org> > Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011 > Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > > > > > > > All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play > games without becoming aberrated or becoming effect. > > David > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20111231/566ed1a6/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 89, Issue 25 > ************************************ >
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