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Hi Valentino
If you are well rested then, yawning is a physical change. Continue the process.
Cognitions are good. Your wife is making progress.
I also had a hard time understanding TROM. I read the book 17 times very
carefully looking up words in dictionaries, doing demos, etc to figure out what
definition of the phrases "to know" and "to be known" would make the chart make
sense.
I finally found the level 5 chart shows all the conflicts a person can have
with another person who opposes them.
Example, if I want to have sex with a girl and she says no. This is:
To sex opposed by to not be sexed
That is also
To be known opposed by to not know.
Don't let the location of the word be confuse you. To sex and to be known are
both actions creating an effect.
My understanding of TROM came from going over the material many times till the
meaning of all the terms became clear. It was a slow process that came from
using the terms and trying to explain the theory to others many times.
You are correct it is worth the work.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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On Mar 3, 2012, at 8:04 PM, "Valentino Laucoski" <valent...@valentino.com.mk>
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> Dear friends,
>
> More then one year ago I read TROM and I started
> to read carefully most of the texts at TROM mailing list, and to
> listen every single lecture of Dennis at least 3 times, in order
> to learn theoretically as much as possible about TROM processing.
>
> I have experience with Dianetics auditing, and studyng scientology basics,
> but left official scientology company due to high unetical behaviour
> from their side. All of you know what it means this.
>
> I looking for some advice concerning two things:
>
> 1. When I am doing Level 2 I am immediately starting to yawn
> and it last untill end of session. Nothing else happens. No other
> negative sensations or other changing appears.
> And it happens all the time. I am yawning hard at least one time or even
> two times per minute. This also happens few years ago during
> dianetics auditing.
> I know that yawning is sign of releasing of mental masses, but I
> am yawning even if I am thinking about processing, during my normal
> activities: working, walking, driving.
> Now I am asking is it normal? Is simply yawning without any other
> side effect is sign of well processing?
>
> I teach my wife to do Level 2, and she never yawn. Also no other negative
> emotions, no sensations, only cognitions.
> Is cognition is counting as "change"? I think yes, but I am looking for
> advice.
>
>
>
> 2. I can't understand level 5 and postulate failure cycle chart. I know that
> the chart is crucial, but I am not understand how to work with it. Also, I
> know trhat
> is too early for me, but I want at least to understand it theoretically.
>
> My intuition tells me that TROM is the best way for spiritual development,
> and I am looking for way to learn it and practicing it at the best possible
> way.
>
> I will be greatfull if you, more experienced TROM practitioners give me some
> usefull data.
>
> Best regards,
> Valentino
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