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Pete, You talk like Dennis is God or an absolute authority on clearing, creation and almost everything else. Or in other words you deify him. That is the same as most scngists do. In other words you think that the truth is determined by authority. That is also the inability to reason, which is as Dennis defined insanity. (that is one thing he was right on) That view point is from a very low level on the tone scale as detailed in the Hubbard chart of Human Evaluation. "Not thinking" is 0.5. "Not wanting change" is the about the same. It is intellectually painful and nauseating to read such stuff and see it posted for everyone else to read. It is very apparent, if you take an impartial or pan determined honest evaluating look at Dennis' written and spoken word that he did not resolve his case, nor reach nirvana. Far from everything Dennis said is gospel. The worst lies are the ones that are almost true. The more truth there is on a fabricated mental construct, the more the truth acts a s a glue to hold the embedded lies in place, which is thereafter not inspected or evaluated and often defended to death. TROM and Scientology are excellent examples of that. Take an honest look and do some critical thinking. Evaluate every datum on it's own merits and compare it against every other datum of comparable magnitude in the known universe to determine it's workability and therefore truth or degree of truth. That is the message in Hubbard's article: "How to study a science". That is the simple formula for understanding and knowing. If you don't do that to Scientology, TROM and everything else, you are just a parrot, and being a parrot is just another form of aberration. Pretty much the same a solopsist. Nothing is true unless it is proven to be true, and truth is determined by workability, or the number of problems a datum solves, not by authority. By deifying Dennis you are proving yourself to be insane. David > From: pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:12:37 -0700 > To: trom@lists.newciv.org > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Here's another Thetan twister to ponder. to David > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > Hi Paul > On several occasions in his writings Dennis states that this universe is > composed of only life and postulates. > > that being the case then all the mass of this universe is postulates. or at > least percieved as postulates. > > if you start at the very beginning before there were universes there was only > the one being called God by most people. at that point there was no mass and > no universes there was only God. then he started making things and suddenly > there was earth, water, air, fishes, birds etc Where did the mass come from? > > > Dennis states that the mass is a byproduct of games play and is generated > when postulates are forced into conflict with opposing postulates. these > fused bits of opposing postulates are what is percieved as mass and all the > stuff in this universe is made of postulates. > > Keep on TROMing > Pete > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Paul Tipon <pti...@proftitleserv.com> wrote: > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > ************ > > > > On Aug 6, 2012, at 11:09 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote: > >> > >> Yes, Paul, I would say that they are perceived as mass, because > >> postulates are causitive. > >> > >> And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict > >> with universal law or someone else's postulate. > >> > >> David > > > > Yes, I agree with that. Under those circumstances that you mention, > > postulates can be perceived as mass and certainly in Scn many things are > > called massey, thick, heavy, etc. My error was thinking that it was being > > stated that a postulate has mass. > > > > Paul/Level 5 in progress > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > Trom@lists.newciv.org > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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