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Am 15.11.2012 18:44, schrieb Paul Tipon:
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Hi xriz,
On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
The level OT 3 adresses the BT`s that had the incidents. But why are
they stuck with some of us ? Because we had such incidents too. A couple
of times even.
The reason for beings flocking together is a common interest or
compulsion. Be it case or life as it should be.
xriz
Here is what The Pilot says: "I hate to say it but OT3 was researched
in a very slipshod manner. Luckily, we get away with spotting only a
tiny piece of Incident One because the incident does not have much
force or charge on it. It can hardly be considered a heavy implant.
What it really is, is a sort of welcoming ceremony or a 'sick' course
that people get put through as they come into this universe to show
them how the game is setup down here."
That is true for people who got that case off. It feels like a prank for
me for example. But the seriousness lies in not being aware of things,
thus being run by them unwittingly.
Case is just like the shadows that fisherman create in the water so they
can direct fish swarms into the nets. Could the fish examine the shadows
for what they are, these shadows had no power over the fish.
OT 2 for example is a simple thing to run. 99,998% of earth population
demonstrates stupid compulsions all day long which stems directly from
the OT 2 material ! And they do not find that out, they give themselves
and everybody around broken lives.
You can be clean though. People around you will cool down then and
abandon the aberrations you do not have as long as you are present.
As I said below, there are also those situations where one will also
not be the effect. My experience is that BTs being degraded Thetans
have very little power and can only communicate on a Thetan line, not
having any bodies of their own. As one becomes more able and aware,
one does not follow their communication or give it much importance.
There is also the ability to know from who, from what and from where
communications are coming from. As one's ability increases, one is
also able to act more ethically and survivally and ignore aberrated,
non-sequitur communications whether from one's own mind or another's.
All of what you say is correct. There is something to add though which
is very important: the state of the surrounding.
On OT 3 an incredible nice thing is done. One helps those BT`s run their
incidents. This enables them to recover and finally leave in order to
live their own life. They usually are deeply grateful for this kind of help.
xriz
Best advice is to relax, just keep TROMming along. If you want more
data, reading The Pilot is great. Also Level 4, what I call "Freedom
from Overwhelm" will obviously cure what ails one Theta wise.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
Am 15.11.2012 00:23, schrieb TROM:
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OT 3 is not addressing YOUR involvement in the incident. It is
addressing
the BTs OT 3 incident. Thus your actual involvement with the
incident has no
bearing on the matter in running OT 3. Best to just run TROM and not
get
involved with trying to run entities. Dennis spoke of his beliefs about
entities on one of his tapes. I think it was this tape:
02_Dissociation12Jan93.mp3
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Tipon [mailto:pti...@proftitleserv.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:33 AM
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Leve 4 "to enhance" @ xriz again
This is a back channel post to another TROMmer about OT3. I will be
posting more too.
On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
I see your point and understand that well.
Can you tell me back channel what the false informations are ?
Would be
great though if it can be said openly on the list here.
I certainly want to get rid of false philosophies i swallowed
unwittingly.
thanks
xriz
One has to realize that not everyone suffered from the engram of
OT3. Depending on one's participation or non-participation is one
factor. Whether or not one was one of those trapped and sent to
Earth and is still being a body Thetan or has since moved up the
Thetan ladder is another factor. Then there are the ones not trapped
at all who only observed or ran the trapping. LRH did nothing to
sort out what should be run in accordance with one's involvement.
Some were not even near the incident and had no news or any data on
it at all.
I have some consideration that Level 4 runs out OT3. When you get
the cognition of 'Freedom from Overwhelm', you will know what I
mean. In the mean time, Level 4 is heavily into overts and
motivators. Ego is also on that line. Making others wrong and self
right is an ego thang. The justification line that everyone puts out
is also an ego thang. One doing a motivator is both an ego thang and
a justification thang. And of course a motivator leads to new
justified overts.
These are all actions that have nothing to do with games but of
course get used and put into the playing of games. The biggest
factor that keeps any aberration in is avoidance which is a withhold
phenomena which is an overt/motivator package product. It is
important to handle overts and motivators as it is to handle one's
case of engrams. The two do not mix but they sure get heaped onto
the pile with each other and mixed and blended up into a really ugly
smoothie.
This is why I really stress Level 4 and I effort to get others to see
how really big a Level it is. It is the biggest. It will provide
the most gains. It has the capacity to solve all of one's case, both
engramic and withhold wise.
There is also the obvious result from Level 4 of handling GPMS. They
just kind of disappear because they are largely de-stimulated but not
erased completely. As a minimum, the overts and motivators attached
to GPMs greatly reduce and if done thoroughly, all can be as-ised.
These overts and motivators that are directly connected to GPMs are
the major portion of the charge that GPMs have. I believe anything
left over can get handled in Level 5 where the unknownness to
knownness can handle the silly, moronic packages that are the
terminals vs. opterms can get as-ised by truth and knownness.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
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