************* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org ************ Hi Pul and Xriz While the story of volcanos and atomic bombs would be one time event there is another source of a "wall of fire" mass extinction that happened several time in earth past.
An asteroid impact will cause a massive shockwave followed by a wall of fire and rain of hot debris that will torch forests and create a dust cloud the shades the surface of the planet for many years. 12,900 years ago a comet, which is a mass of gravel and ice hit the area of Canada. it was large enough to melt the glaciers here. the shock wave and heat killed all the large animals like mammoth and saber tooth tigers and men that lived in North America. There was a world wide civilization that produced precision stone work that was wiped out. A new ice age ensued and at the end of that only a myth of Atlantis remained. There is comet debris in America and Europe that proves this happened. Assuming that these events happen periodically there would be a number of beings with this common engram of a massive disaster involving a shocking explosion, wall of fire, and death. What do you think? Sincerely Pete On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:51 AM, xrizfz <xri...@yahoo.de> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > Am 15.11.2012 18:44, schrieb Paul Tipon: >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> Hi xriz, >> >> On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote: >>> >>> The level OT 3 adresses the BT`s that had the incidents. But why are >>> they stuck with some of us ? Because we had such incidents too. A couple >>> of times even. >>> The reason for beings flocking together is a common interest or >>> compulsion. Be it case or life as it should be. >>> >>> xriz >> Here is what The Pilot says: "I hate to say it but OT3 was researched in a >> very slipshod manner. Luckily, we get away with spotting only a tiny piece >> of Incident One because the incident does not have much force or charge on >> it. It can hardly be considered a heavy implant. What it really is, is a >> sort of welcoming ceremony or a 'sick' course that people get put through as >> they come into this universe to show them how the game is setup down here." > That is true for people who got that case off. It feels like a prank for me > for example. But the seriousness lies in not being aware of things, thus > being run by them unwittingly. > Case is just like the shadows that fisherman create in the water so they can > direct fish swarms into the nets. Could the fish examine the shadows for what > they are, these shadows had no power over the fish. > > OT 2 for example is a simple thing to run. 99,998% of earth population > demonstrates stupid compulsions all day long which stems directly from the OT > 2 material ! And they do not find that out, they give themselves and > everybody around broken lives. > You can be clean though. People around you will cool down then and abandon > the aberrations you do not have as long as you are present. > >> As I said below, there are also those situations where one will also not be >> the effect. My experience is that BTs being degraded Thetans have very >> little power and can only communicate on a Thetan line, not having any >> bodies of their own. As one becomes more able and aware, one does not >> follow their communication or give it much importance. There is also the >> ability to know from who, from what and from where communications are coming >> from. As one's ability increases, one is also able to act more ethically >> and survivally and ignore aberrated, non-sequitur communications whether >> from one's own mind or another's. > All of what you say is correct. There is something to add though which is > very important: the state of the surrounding. > On OT 3 an incredible nice thing is done. One helps those BT`s run their > incidents. This enables them to recover and finally leave in order to live > their own life. They usually are deeply grateful for this kind of help. > > xriz > >> >> Best advice is to relax, just keep TROMming along. If you want more data, >> reading The Pilot is great. Also Level 4, what I call "Freedom from >> Overwhelm" will obviously cure what ails one Theta wise. >> >> Paul/Level 5 in progress >> >>> Am 15.11.2012 00:23, schrieb TROM: >>>> ************* >>>> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >>>> ************ >>>> OT 3 is not addressing YOUR involvement in the incident. It is addressing >>>> the BTs OT 3 incident. Thus your actual involvement with the incident has >>>> no >>>> bearing on the matter in running OT 3. Best to just run TROM and not get >>>> involved with trying to run entities. Dennis spoke of his beliefs about >>>> entities on one of his tapes. I think it was this tape: >>>> 02_Dissociation12Jan93.mp3 >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Paul Tipon [mailto:pti...@proftitleserv.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:33 AM >>>> To: trom@lists.newciv.org >>>> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Leve 4 "to enhance" @ xriz again >>>> >>>> This is a back channel post to another TROMmer about OT3. I will be >>>> posting more too. >>>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote: >>>>> I see your point and understand that well. >>>>> Can you tell me back channel what the false informations are ? >>>>> Would be >>>>> great though if it can be said openly on the list here. >>>>> I certainly want to get rid of false philosophies i swallowed >>>>> unwittingly. >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> xriz >>>> One has to realize that not everyone suffered from the engram of >>>> OT3. Depending on one's participation or non-participation is one >>>> factor. Whether or not one was one of those trapped and sent to >>>> Earth and is still being a body Thetan or has since moved up the >>>> Thetan ladder is another factor. Then there are the ones not trapped >>>> at all who only observed or ran the trapping. LRH did nothing to >>>> sort out what should be run in accordance with one's involvement. >>>> Some were not even near the incident and had no news or any data on >>>> it at all. >>>> >>>> I have some consideration that Level 4 runs out OT3. When you get >>>> the cognition of 'Freedom from Overwhelm', you will know what I >>>> mean. In the mean time, Level 4 is heavily into overts and >>>> motivators. Ego is also on that line. Making others wrong and self >>>> right is an ego thang. The justification line that everyone puts out >>>> is also an ego thang. One doing a motivator is both an ego thang and >>>> a justification thang. And of course a motivator leads to new >>>> justified overts. >>>> >>>> These are all actions that have nothing to do with games but of >>>> course get used and put into the playing of games. The biggest >>>> factor that keeps any aberration in is avoidance which is a withhold >>>> phenomena which is an overt/motivator package product. It is >>>> important to handle overts and motivators as it is to handle one's >>>> case of engrams. The two do not mix but they sure get heaped onto >>>> the pile with each other and mixed and blended up into a really ugly >>>> smoothie. >>>> >>>> This is why I really stress Level 4 and I effort to get others to see >>>> how really big a Level it is. It is the biggest. It will provide >>>> the most gains. It has the capacity to solve all of one's case, both >>>> engramic and withhold wise. >>>> >>>> There is also the obvious result from Level 4 of handling GPMS. They >>>> just kind of disappear because they are largely de-stimulated but not >>>> erased completely. As a minimum, the overts and motivators attached >>>> to GPMs greatly reduce and if done thoroughly, all can be as-ised. >>>> These overts and motivators that are directly connected to GPMs are >>>> the major portion of the charge that GPMs have. I believe anything >>>> left over can get handled in Level 5 where the unknownness to >>>> knownness can handle the silly, moronic packages that are the >>>> terminals vs. opterms can get as-ised by truth and knownness. >>>> >>>> Paul/Level 5 in progress >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trom mailing list >>>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trom mailing list >>> Trom@lists.newciv.org >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >>> >>> End of Trom Digest, Vol 100, Issue 13 >>> ************************************* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
