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Hi Paul and Pete,
Because of this enquiry,  I re-listened to the lecture #26;  Sex Goals
Package 28 May '93.   Apparently,  a thetan wouldn't have these
cross-packagings if not for the body.  The body has it's sex postulates,
and so does the thetan.
The Male Body has a male sexual ionization in his penis of 'to sex', and
also a usually lesser female sexual ionization in his rear end/anus of 'to
be sexed'.   The female has a female sexual ionization of 'to be sexed' in
her rear quarters,  anus,  vulva, and vagina,   and also a usually lesser
male sexual ionization of 'to sex' in her pseudo penis known as the
clitoris in her front.
This can trigger homosexuality in the male if the back end ionization is
turned on too strongly,  and lesbianism in the female if the front end
ionization is turned on too strongly.
The body postulates are what confuses the thetan, and not the thetan's
postulates.
Does this help ?  I just gleaned this out of the lecture.
Thanks,  Aarre Peltomaa

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:20 AM, Paul Tipon <pti...@proftitleserv.com>wrote:

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> Hi Pete,
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> Let's see what I can do to further illuminate this situation.
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> On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:44 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
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>  Hi all
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>
>  In the TROM manual Dennis states the following:
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>> "As a male, he soon starts to get opposed to females, and vice-versa.
>> Very soon he is in a terrible state on the subject, for the two genders are
>> not intrinsically in opposition to each other. </p>
>>
>> You end up with a classic case of cross-packaging. We find the male
>> desperately asserting his masculinity, while heavily suppressing any
>> feminine characteristics in his personality, and vice-versa for the female.
>> The whole subject soon takes on the quality of a nightmare, and becomes one
>> big unsolvable problem. And it stays this way until the being regains his
>> full freedom of choice to occupy, at will, any one of the four classes
>> available to him on the subject".?
>>
>> I am confused by the first sentence in the second paragraph. How is this
>> a classic case of Cross-Packaging??  it is a classic case of compulsive
>> games play but I don't see how it is cross packaging.
>>
>>  What I get out of the label of Cross-Packaging is that a male and then
> too a female, may both have a games condition with the other/opposite sex.
>  Each would have one to several games conditions towards the opposite sex,
> a games condition for several aspects of the opposite sex.  In other words
> a games condition concerning the way the opposite sex talks, the way they
> act, the way they dress, the things they like or dislike, the way they act
> or react to the opposite sex, what is important and not important.  I would
> then say that between two opposite sex persons, they may both have these
> types of opposed ways of looking at the other and when you have two
> opposite sexes where each has their own personal opposed games conditions
> towards the other, simply because the other is the opposite sex then one
> viewing this set-up between the two will see a 'Cross-Packaging'.
>
> That's what I get out of the characterization.
>
>  Anyone have an idea?
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Pete
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> Paul, Level 5 in progress
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