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Hi Colleen
  "Greasing the skids" is an old logging term. Loggers would lay down logs to 
create a log road and drag logs over it to the mill.  Since the road often went 
through town and was lined with bars the term "skid row" came to mean down and 
out.

I do notice as I run out the games I loose the compulsion, desire, interest and 
finally just walk away from them.

I am taking the lazy approach to TROM.  I let life restimulate something in my 
mind and timebreak it.  I use RI to relax from a busy mind by focusing on 
something like the breath going in and out through my nose.  I exclude any of 
the day's games that crop up and return to focusing on my breathing.  I 
continue till I fall asleep and that is the end phenomenon I am seeking.

Sincerely
Pete Mclaughlin

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> Hello, Pete,
> 
> Yes, Dennis did say 360-spherical, didn't he? At first it helped if I asked 
> myself, "where are you?", and when I determined "my center of awareness" I 
> commenced putting things around me spherical. It also helped if I worked into 
> it gradiently, first creating the item in six different directions and 
> holding them all there.
> 
> I think only someone who has done as much mind tampering as I have would have 
> to work in these gradients, and even I'm starting to realize how hard I have 
> been making it for myself.
> 
> Well, Pete, it seems then that a 4d RI would be an outside-the-universe 
> viewpoint where time is experienced differently. All of that is, of course, 
> "change occurring", right? At some point the activity stops, right?
> 
> I too find it aids in my projects to run RI on some important or fixed aspect 
> of that project. Doing that seems to unfixate the mind or handle a hang-up 
> and take me to seeing more options and refinements, along the formula that 
> "Value = beauty and rarity". For example, a rare and beautifully tied knot 
> could be "Instagram worthy" :-))  
> 
> RI on a project plus timebreaking whatever related pasts or IP states the 
> mind might bring up is part of the formula that equals "joy of competency".
> 
> For example, in my current mest project - in the beginning stage of putting 
> it all on paper - stopping to do a 360-degrees RI on some aspect of the 
> project takes me from at first comprehending the mundanity of conventional 
> functional systems to simpler or more refined systems plus an openess to 
> aesthetics of colors and form and a higher sensitivity to what is 
> complementary, even mest, for I also, in doing RI, opened up to the affinity 
> scales of matter. To put it simply, one finds they have more options. One can 
> stop creating more problems in the act of trying to solve a problem.
> 
> I can't credit all this to RI alone: the timebreaking helped me free up more 
> attention units to present time and I suddenly find I can actually take on 
> such a project whereas before timebreaking my mind was more busy going around 
> in circles - like summer re-runs of television shows - with the same old 
> problems carried forward from the past. 
> 
> I suspect as one resolves more of the overt/motivator games of the past, 
> going up the levels of TROM, one moves into human and "higher human" 
> conditions on the way to re-taking all viewpoints (or none) at Level Five.
> 
> Pete, it sounds like that log is going to need a lot of grease to get it 
> sliding along :-))
> 
> trom is beautiful and ohhhh so rare.
> 
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>> To: Trom@lists.newciv.org
>> Subject: [TROM1] Notes on RI
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>> I still sometimes ponder over Dennis' instructions for the Repair of
>> Importances exercise. Take, for example, his instruction of "... put it
>> around you 360-degrees ...":
>> 
>> *360-degrees could be either*:
>> 1. as a diorama placed upon the concave side of a sphere with self in the
>> center;
>> 2. as fractals of the same thing (like a compound eye) placed spherically
>> around you; or
>> 3. as a holographic 4d: you are inside the thing and can view everything
>> from that "inside". For example, you put a stuffed toy animal all around
>> you and you see the stuffing inside of it, plus the top and bottom and
>> front and back, etcetera - all of it in a 4th dimensional, holographic
>> sense.
>> 
>> "Quantity vs Quality" could be achieved for
>> #1 by repeatedly putting up the diorama scene until no more change. With
>> #2 quantity is achieved by itself and one can simply hold that scene there
>> until no more change. With
>> #3, quantity can be achieved by, as with #1, repeatedly placing the
>> original item there everytime a change occurs.
>> 
>> The bottom line is to feel relaxed and ready to go into the time-breaking
>> activity with a positive attitude.
>> 
>> Because of somewhat occluded vision I also "feel" it all around me, as when
>> a blind man relies more heavily on his other perceptics.
>> 
>> OKAY, so I do this repeatedly - after everytime I lose the imagery or
>> "feeling" or some other change occurs, and I usually stop once the body
>> relaxes.
>> 
>> The importance for me is not necessarily in seeing it but in feeling and
>> knowing it is all around me - that is "havingness" (i.e., an "importance"),
>> similar to walking around and getting touchy-feelie with objects in the
>> environment  -- until no more change.
>> 
>> I would appreciate feedback on whether you are doing #1, #2, or #3, or
>> something else. How is RI working for you?
>> 
>> Colleen
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>> Hi Colleen
>>   On #3 for me 4d would mean being inside the stuffed toy animal seeing all 
>> the stuffing, inside of the fabric etc and adding the time element so seeing 
>> it being assembled at the beginning, seeing its existence with all the 
>> getting played with, dirty, washed and played with again and finally seeing 
>> it disintegrate on some refuse dump.
>> 
>> However, while i started out making things like apple pies all around me 
>> repeatedly I now  simply design stuff I need to make or jobs I need to do.  
>> For instance, I need to fetch a 13 foot 1000 pound log out of the woods and 
>> move it o my saw mill.  I picture the devices I need to connect to the log, 
>> knots I need to attach to the devices on the log and  where I can anchor the 
>> winch I will use to pull the log out of the woods.
>> 
>> This kind of problem is most interesting to me.  It solves a problem in life 
>> that I need to accomplish in the next day.
>> 
>> For me "360 degrees around me" is not limited to a horizontal plane.  I am 
>> at a point location independent of gravity or the horizon so 360 is 
>> spherical.
>> 
>> Sincerely
>> Pete McLaughlin
>> 
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>> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 8:34 PM, The Resolution of Mind list 
>> > <trom@lists.newciv.org> wrote:
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>> > I still sometimes ponder over Dennis' instructions for the Repair of 
>> > Importances exercise. Take, for example, his instruction of "... put it 
>> > around you 360-degrees ...":
>> >
>> > 360-degrees could be either:
>> > 1. as a diorama placed upon the concave side of a sphere with self in the 
>> > center;
>> > 2. as fractals of the same thing (like a compound eye) placed spherically 
>> > around you; or
>> > 3. as a holographic 4d: you are inside the thing and can view everything 
>> > from that "inside". For example, you put a stuffed toy animal all around 
>> > you and you see the stuffing inside of it, plus the top and bottom and 
>> > front and back, etcetera - all of it in a 4th dimensional, holographic 
>> > sense.
>> >
>> > "Quantity vs Quality" could be achieved for
>> > #1 by repeatedly putting up the diorama scene until no more change. With
>> > #2 quantity is achieved by itself and one can simply hold that scene there 
>> > until no more change. With
>> > #3, quantity can be achieved by, as with #1, repeatedly placing the 
>> > original item there everytime a change occurs.
>> >
>> > The bottom line is to feel relaxed and ready to go into the time-breaking 
>> > activity with a positive attitude.
>> >
>> > Because of somewhat occluded vision I also "feel" it all around me, as 
>> > when a blind man relies more heavily on his other perceptics.
>> >
>> > OKAY, so I do this repeatedly - after everytime I lose the imagery or 
>> > "feeling" or some other change occurs, and I usually stop once the body 
>> > relaxes.
>> >
>> > The importance for me is not necessarily in seeing it but in feeling and 
>> > knowing it is all around me - that is "havingness" (i.e., an 
>> > "importance"), similar to walking around and getting touchy-feelie with 
>> > objects in the environment  -- until no more change.
>> >
>> > I would appreciate feedback on whether you are doing #1, #2, or #3, or 
>> > something else. How is RI working for you?
>> >
>> > Colleen
>> >
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