On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:00:02 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There you go, being deceitful Blaine, is it a SIN to hide > information? > Does this QUALIFY as one of your INTERNAL SINS? > Are you trying to pull one over on us? > http://scriptures.lds.org/alma/7 > > Alma 7:10 says, "And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem > which is in the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a > precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and shall > conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, > even the Son of God." > > BLAINE quotes it thus > "Mary, . . . BEING A VIRGIN, A PRECIOUS AND CHOSEN VESSEL WHO SHALL > BE > OVERSHADOWED AND CONCEIVE BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST, AND BRING > FORTH A SON, YEA, EVEN THE SON OF GOD." Alma7:10
***Blaine: I guess you never listened to your English teacher, Kevin (:>) The three dots mean for the sake of brevity, I deliberately left some of the wording out. But I did retain the essential meaning, relevant to what we were discussing. Glad to see you are keeping up on the Mormon scriptures. Would you please give me your address, Kevin, and I can have a Book of Mormon sent to you in a matter of days, then you won't have to look it up on the Internet. (:>) Of course it would probably be delivered by two Elders, or two Sister missionaries, who would be happy to answer some of your questions, and maybe even arrange to have your confession heard by a Bishop or other Priesthood leader, as a precursor to your eventual repentance. LOL > > Is this a SIN of OMMISSION? > Not faith promoting enough, so you excise the OFFENDING portion. > What gives you the right to HIDE this? > Is this meat? > WHERE WAS THE LDS JESUS BORN JERUSALEM! > Where was the Bible Jesus born ? Bethlehem! > > VIRGIN? > When was she a virgin until? > Was she still a virgin when Joseph knew her? > Since the Father has a body of flesh & bone D&C 130;22 is a > glorified man, has passions. Why did he not do it the old fashioned > way? > How could the second prophet of the church get it wrong if this is > official doctrine? > > Did not B Young speak as an prophet seer revelator? > "When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had > begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy > Ghost" (Journal of Discourses, Vol.1, p.50). > The birth of the Savior was as natural as are the births of our > children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh > and blood- was begotten of his Father, as we are of our fathers. > —Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 8:115 > > Besides it would be dangerous to be around the Holy Ghost."If the > Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to > baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest > he [the Holy Ghost] should BEGET CHILDREN...." LDS "Prophet" Brigham > Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 51 > > Brigham Young once described God as having, "… all the parts and > passions of a perfect man, and his body is composed of flesh and > bones…" Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 19:64. This view of God > lead Young to say, "When the time came that…the Saviour, should come > into the world…the Father came himself and favoured that spirit with > a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it." Journal of > Discourse 4:218 > > > This Apostle got it wrong too."God the Father is a perfected, > glorified, holy Man, an immortal Personage. And Christ was born into > the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the > same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born > to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; > he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course > of events, for he is the Son of God, and that designation means what > it says." Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.742 > What was the LITERAL SENSE of how you were born to your mortal > father? > > Christ is not the Son of the Holy Ghost, but of the Father. > Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 18-20 > > Apostle Orson Pratt wrote in The Seer p 158 "The fleshly body of > Jesus required a mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father > and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been > associated together in the capacity of Husband and Wife" > > "Hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being the lawful > wife of God the Father: we use the term lawful Wife, because it > would be blasphemous in the highest degree to say that He > overshadowed her or begat the Saviour unlawfully," > > The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have > more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another > husband." Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 11:268 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Perry, Your writing about what Mormons believe, is mostly WRONG! > > The Church did not take the practice/doctrine of doing baptisms for > the > dead from the "writings of Joseph Smith." The practice was begun > before > he died, UNDER HIS DIRECTION. > > Further, your assertion that Mormons believe Mary was not a virgin, > but a > young woman who had sex with God is totally incorrect. The belief is > and always has been that Mary was a virgin in the most literal > sense. > The BOOK OF MORMON states: > > "Mary, . . . BEING A VIRGIN, A PRECIOUS AND CHOSEN VESSEL WHO SHALL > BE > OVERSHADOWED AND CONCEIVE BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST, AND BRING > FORTH > A SON, YEA, EVEN THE SON OF GOD." Alma7:10 > > The above is the official doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter-day Saints. > > PS: your posts still go to an attached file when I try to reply to > them. > > Blaine > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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