Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:46
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Geography of Never
Never land
Blaine and DaveH:
What say ye about all of this?
Who is the great nation referred to in your holy writ? This has
nothing at all
to do with the resurrected Christ because these names have no part in
His
genealogy.
To me it all sounds like the kind of fables referred to in 1 Timothy
1:4:
"Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies which minister
questions rather than godly edifying which is in faith - so do" along
with
2 Timothy 4:3,4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
teachers
having itching ears; and they shall turn away from the truth, and shall
be
turned unto fables.
Actually I can see why men who are walking after the flesh would like
your
religion; it caters to the male ego and the women are subjugated. I was
just
reading an excerpt from a book called The Mormon Mirage written by
Latayne Scott and reflecting on the role of women in Mormonism - from
her
own experience she writes: "I was once sitting in a Relief Society
meeting
when the speaker made an attention-getting remark. In explaining
the
relationship of husband and wife she said "Women are the doormats
upon
which men wipe their feet before going in to God" ... she
continues "I was
stunned. I looked open mouthed at my friends in the room. Surely
someone
else was as outraged about this as I - but all around me young women
were
nodding in contemplation and agreement...." Judy
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From: "Charles Perry
Locke" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
NUMBER
1:
Bible:
Genesis 11:9 - Therefore is the name of it called Babel;
because the LORD
did there confound the language of all the earth: and
from thence did the
LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the
earth.
Contradicting BoM passages:
Ether 1
[33] Which Jared came forth with his brother and their
families, with some
others and their families, from the great tower, at
the time the Lord
confounded the language of the people, and swore in his
wrath that they
should be scattered upon all the face of the earth; and
according to the
word of the Lord the people were scattered.
[34] And
the brother of Jared being a large and mighty man, and a man highly
favored of the Lord, Jared, his brother, said unto him: Cry unto the Lord,
that he will not confound us that we may not understand our words.
[35]
And it came to pass that the brother of Jared did cry unto the Lord,
and
the Lord had compassion upon Jared; therefore he did not confound the
language of Jared; and Jared and his brother were not confounded.
[36]
Then Jared said unto his brother: Cry again unto the Lord, and it may
be
that he will turn away his anger from them who are our friends, that he
confound not their language.
[37] And it came to pass that the brother
of Jared did cry unto the Lord,
and the Lord had compassion upon their
friends and their families also, that
they were not confounded.
The confounding of the language of "of all the earth", as described in
Genesis, would have made Jared and his nameless brother and their friends'
and families' trip to the new world impossible, so the author of the
BoM had
to "undo" the Word of God in order to not have a logical fallacy.
Instead,
they contradicted the bible to do this.
NUMBER 2:
Contradicting BoM passages:
Ether 1
[43] "And there will I bless thee and thy seed, and raise up
unto me of thy
seed, and of the seed of thy brother, and they who shall go
with thee, a
great nation. And there shall be none greater than the
nation which I will
raise up unto me of thy seed, upon all the face of the
earth. And thus I
will do unto thee because this long time ye have
cried unto me."
Here, the Mormon god, speaking to Jared and his nameless brother, said
"And
there shall be none greater than the nation which I will raise
up unto me of
thy seed."
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Now, surely so great a nation (of which there is "none greater") would be
known today. But, I know of no one who has ever heard of a Jaredite. There
is neither historical nor archeological records of any such nation. Not
only
that, but the visions given to Nebuchadnezzar and interpreted by
Daniel the
prophet, indicated that there wold be 4 great kingdoms...the
Babylonian, the
Medo-Persion, the Greek, and the Roman. Now either God of
the Bible made a
terrible error and forgot about the Jaredites, or the BoM
god lied, or never
existed anyway. The bottom line...a fictional story
with fictional
characters.
Oh, by the way, one does not have to drink a whole carton of milk to find
out it is sour...usually one sip tells the whole story. Same with the BoM.
one does not have to read the whole thing to find out it is false. Once
one
finds a few blatent plaigerisms of and contradictions to the Bible,
there is
no need to continue to waste any more time with it.
Perry