They don't, Kevin. The question has to be, what is it teaching them?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] knowing Truth

So Bill, Just exactly how does a list of scriptures stop people from learning?

Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let those that have ears, HEAR
Stop telling me not to THROW scriptures, Bill

"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Good, Judy,
 
There are other imperatives and indicatives in scripture. Let those who want to learn learn.
 
Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] knowing Truth

Bill Kevin has a valid question; why do we need to know the indicatives
and imperatives - will it lead us to your particular doctrine in the end?
It's obvious that God bringing Israel out of Egypt was grace without
breaking down the sentence structure.   Judyt
Kevin, are you only in this to cause trouble and get in the way of learning?
If not then please read for understanding. In this way you may be understanding
of another's intent -- even when the words he used didn't exactly say what he meant.
 
Bill Taylor
Sad commentary And an amazing statement!
"We can never know if we are right about anything"
What a testimony!
Therefore doth Job open his mouth in vain; he multiplieth words without knowledge
 
So why even discuss anything?
It is all vanity!
 
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.?

The Christians testimony:

1 Jn 3:19 we know that we are of the truth

1 Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

JN 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Prov 15:2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.

We can know for certain

Luke 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Prov 22:21 That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?

1 Tim 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

The Righteous KNOW:
PS 119:75 I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right

PS 94:10 He that chastiseth the heathen, shall not he correct? he that teacheth man knowledge, shall not he know?

PS 95:10 Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways

Ps 51 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to KNOW wisdom.

Prov 8 For my mouth shall speak truth ...They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge

Some ERR

Is 5:13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge

Mt 22:29 Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures

Some are BABES

IS 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

It is the WICKED that do NOT KNOW!

MT13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Ps 92:6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.

PS 82 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness

Prov 4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

PS 14:4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge?
 
Is 44:9 They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.
 
Jer 9:3 And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
 
Is this your crowd?

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In a message dated 3/30/2004 3:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Thanks Judy. You did apprehend my meaning and, in the end agreed. Aside from assuming the "attack mode" at the outset you acknowledged that there are limitations to our understanding of Scripture's meaning and, throughout life will continue to be this "seeing in part". Thanks, Lance


We can never know if we are right about anything -  that is why change (even for our Mortmon friends  and judyt) is possible.   And that is why Paul tells us that doctrinal knowledge is not the key but love --   I  Co 8:1-3.  

John


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