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Sent: June 07, 2004 07:42
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ
-- the real vs false
Hi Terry/Judy:TF a false teacher? This then would
indicate that you two have read or listened to him with sufficient care
and thoughtfulness to have distinguished the true from the false (according to
your own perception of the truth).
jt: Lance it intrigues me that you
always use the qualifier "your own perception of the truth" Truth is
what it is and it is not difficult, it is written right there in scripture. I
daresay if Jesus Himself walked amongst us you would put him in the same
category. Don't you believe Jeremiah 31:33, or Hebrews 8:8-11? Is
noone able to perceive truth by the ministry of the Holy Spirit? Has God
lost the battle and the adversary clouded the issues so that the truth
is hidden from everyone who does not agree with you, Bill, Jonathan, and
Torrance?
If circumstances could be reversed would this
make the two of you 'false teachers'?
jt: What
circumstances?
This isn't the way to carry on a discussion re:
the content of one's teaching vis a vis it's faithfulness to God and His
Gospel.
As the TV has an on/off switch so I'd suggest you
opt out of the discussion if you don't wish to scrutinize it with
care.
jt: I've fallen for this
one in trying to dialogue with die hard members of the rcc even
going so far as to buy their new catechism which was a waste of
time/money and didn't help any of us because if we will not
unify around the truth of God's Word there can be no unity. We
would be much wiser to scrutinize the Word of
God the bread from heaven because to validate your beliefs you
will need to show them in the Word of God (in balance and in
context). So far your group has put forth a few scriptures that appear to
validate these claims ignorting those that would need to be excised if this
theory were true. We know we are making progress when we don't have to
modify or cut out any scripture to fit our doctrine.
Hi Terry, you write:
It would appear from reading just a fraction of what Torrance
taught, that his teaching is a mixture. Part truth, and part oats that
have already been through the horse. If this is true, does that make
him a false teacher, or just another imperfect human like the rest of
us? Terry
jt: Doesn't Satan always hang his lies
on truth? He would not succeed in deceiving without
it. The Koran is 50% scripture and every cult uses some mixture
of twisted scripture in their teachings - they just add and subtract a few
things. When Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, he used
scripture, presented with his spin of course but it was God's truth he
perverted.
How do his (Satan's) ministers present themselves
as 'angels of light without God's Word?' I wouldn't presume to judge
Torrance the man, that is God's business but it is our responsibility to be
Berean and judge his public teaching in the light of God's Word. I
consider it false enough to be dangerous. How would you define a false
teacher Terry?
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Judy
Taylor wrote:
I wouldn't want to be
trying to stand in 'the day of the Lord' holding on to "but Torrance said"
would you??
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