Lance, The book looks great. I certainly believe in God's judgment. The confusion only comes for me on this issue: is His judgment reserved only for true Believers on this earth (and the wicked go apparently unscathed)? Or does He judge both the wicked and Believers in this life and in the next? It looks like this book is only discussing Judgment Day in the afterlife. But I'd like to get it. How can I order it through your store? Izzy
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy? Izzy:Try:http://www.RefugeBaptist.org Let me know if it works. I connected with Faust concerning his book. We carry it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 09, 2004 16:33 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy? > That address doesn't seem to be working; are you sure it isn't just an email > address? Izzy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy? > > See: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. I'd appreciate any comments > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: June 09, 2004 15:32 > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy? > > > > Lance, Can you tell us about this book? Izzy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy? > > > > DavidM: "The Rod:Will God Spare It" J.D.Faust Have you read it? If so will > > you comment on it? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: June 09, 2004 08:54 > > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Trustworthy? > > > > > > > Izzy wrote: > > > > Bill, In my experience Jesus has not always been > > > > entirely someone I can trust in every sense of the > > > > word. Sometimes He is quite beyond any possibility > > > > of my understanding, let alone "trusting" Him. ... > > > > Job trusted, but was shocked by what happened to him. > > > > We have ALL been disappointed when we trusted the Lord, > > > > at one time or another. ... His Word is trustworthy. > > > > But often His answering of prayers is not. I believe > > > > we will someday understand why. > > > > > > Izzy, I appreciate such a brutally honest post, but my heart is really > > > saddened to read it. Jesus is always able to be trusted. Always. > > > > > > I cannot relate to your statement that we have ALL been disappointed > > > when we trusted the Lord. I do not remember anytime when Jesus has > > > broken my trust. Not once has he ever done that. In regards to Job, if > > > he was shocked it was because he did not realize that bad things > > > happened to good people. Nevertheless, Job repented of his lack of > > > trusting God to deliver him from his calamity, and in the end he > > > received greater blessings than he had before. And more importantly, > > > despite whatever happened to him, he never stopped trusting that God > > > himself was righteous and holy. In all his calamity, Job never sinned > > > by cursing God or saying anything like, "God is not trustworthy." > > > > > > There is a law of sowing and reaping in this world that must be > > > recognized. If a man mistreats his wife, he will suffer marital > > > problems. He can't say that he is trusting Jesus to fix his marital > > > problems when he has mistreated his wife. If he has suffered in this, > > > it is because he has stepped outside the doctrine of Christ in his > > > relationship to his wife. David committed adultery, but that did not > > > stop the judgment that came because of it, even after he repented. If > > > we experience the chastisement of the Lord, we should not come to the > > > conclusion that the Lord is not to be trusted. Rather, we need to > > > examine ourselves and see where we have departed from the doctrine and > > > admonition of the Lord. Please re-examine your perspective in this > > > area. I am very concerned and fear for you. Your perspective is not > > > one that would allow you to benefit from the chastisement of the Lord. > > > Rather, your perspective is one that leads to being confused by the rod > > > of correction, to hating this rod, and eventually to rebellion of the > > > heart. Please reconsider. > > > > > > Also, consider that there is a spiritual war going on. Jesus promised > > > us tribulation and persecution. We can't trust Jesus to keep us FROM > > > the tribulation, because that would be contrary to his teaching and > > > promises, but we can trust Jesus to strengthen us and to deliver us in > > > the end. We also can trust Jesus to judge those through whom that > > > persecution comes. > > > > > > Peace be with you. > > > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. > > > > > > ---------- > > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know > > how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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